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Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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And Google started publishing on differential privacy in 2014, way before Apple used WWDC's marketing to paint themselves as the only ones using it.

Genuinely curious, where does google actually use differential privacy?

Chrome telemetry is one example I know of: https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/rappor

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And Google started publishing on differential privacy in 2014, way before Apple used WWDC's marketing to paint themselves as the only ones using it.

Genuinely curious, where does google actually use differential privacy?

Very related to differential privacy: https://research.googleblog.com/2015/08/the-reusable-holdout... (together with IBM and Samsung)

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Of course! What researcher would want to work for a company that prohibits scientific publications? I've always been amazed by their attitude. Look at Microsoft Research, and their enormous scientific output over the years. IBM and Google look bleak by comparison, and Apple is not even on the chart.

If you consider the number of papers published over the lifetime of IBM, and the fact that IBM Research does work in all levels of computing (materials science -> software), Microsoft's research output looks minuscule in comparison. But if you're considering only CS research, then you might be right. Here is a nice snapshot of the major contributions that came out of IBM Research over the past 60 years: http://www.re…

And all of these, in terms of quality of research output, pale by about an order of magnitude in comparison to Bell Labs for much of its existence (particularly in the era ~1940 to mid 1980s). They were the R&D benchmark for most improvements to IBM Research from the 1960s onward. Additionally IBM sought out its alumni and populated their ranks with notable management and research minds from the Bell Labs stable.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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From that page, it looks like Google has published 4359 papers. From this page, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/about/ Microsoft claims to have published over 10000 papers.

Microsoft is 23 years older than Google and it usually takes time for a corporation to create an R&D lab. Given Google's rich academic roots this happened faster there than usual. Google is doing a good job given that it's a relatively young company. I hope their research output continues to increase in quality and volume. If you go by publication count alone, I suspect that IBM Research is still near the top. They h…

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Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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True, tho Xerox has to be up there as well.

Nah, the transistor is more groundbreaking than anything xerox did.

The transistor is more groundbreaking than most developments in the 20th century, combined.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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> Researchers say among the reasons Apple has failed to keep pace is its unwillingness to allow its AI engineers to publish scientific papers, stymieing its ability to feed off wider advances in the field. I don't follow. How would preventing employees from writing papers would stop them from reading papers?

If the could publish their research other researchers would take their work in a new direction that they didn't think of, which they could then bring back.

Basically they can't provide that seed insight that motivates others.

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If you consider the number of papers published over the lifetime of IBM, and the fact that IBM Research does work in all levels of computing (materials science -> software), Microsoft's research output looks minuscule in comparison. But if you're considering only CS research, then you might be right. Here is a nice snapshot of the major contributions that came out of IBM Research over the past 60 years: http://www.re…

And all of these, in terms of quality of research output, pale by about an order of magnitude in comparison to Bell Labs for much of its existence (particularly in the era ~1940 to mid 1980s). They were the R&D benchmark for most improvements to IBM Research from the 1960s onward. Additionally IBM sought out its alumni and populated their ranks with notable management and research minds from the Bell Labs stable.

You could probably bundle all of the achievements of the aforementioned companies into a single decade of research output from Bell Labs.

It's not a fair comparison at all.

Re: Apple to Start Publishing AI Research

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True, tho Xerox has to be up there as well.

Nah, the transistor is more groundbreaking than anything xerox did.

What's even more amazing is how they followed up with the invention of solar cells, CCD for digital cameras, the MOSFET, etc. So not only did they invent the base (transistor), but they continued to make more inventions using it.
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