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Re: Ask HN: Are you more likely to apply for a job that discloses salary upfront?

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Post by jackfrodo »

st553 wrote: post #60
jackfrodo wrote: post #9

All things being equal, if I had to choose between applying to two jobs, and one of them explicitly offered the salary that I believe I'm worth, then yeah, I would apply to that one. On another note, one thing I've been thinking of doing, (and I'd be delighted if you did it!) is a job board that only shows positions with take home interviews instead of in-person coding exercises. I think this is a growing trend as pe…

Just to expand on this, maybe a job board should tell you what the interview process is like. Whether its take home test, whiteboard, in person project, etc.

Yes, and this being a field that you can filter by.

Re: Ask HN: Are you more likely to apply for a job that discloses salary upfront?

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Post by jasonlotito »

swalsh wrote: post #11

Having enough salary is important, but it shouldn't drive your decision (as the employee). Not having enough money definitely matters, but at some point there are diminishing returns on how important salary is to your motivation, and future success in a role. You know what I wish I had in a job search? Let me post a profile, not a resume, but give me a survey. Let employers search for me based on what I'm good at...…

> Not having enough money definitely matters, but at some point there are diminishing returns on how important salary is to your motivation, and future success in a role.

The only time this is the case is when you aren't listing the job opening and instead are hiring someone specifically to recruit someone. If you are posting the job on your site or on some external site, you are not at that point yet.

Re: Ask HN: Are you more likely to apply for a job that discloses salary upfront?

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Post by rhizome »

deedubaya wrote: post #30

Lacking a salary range in a job posting tells me that "competitive salary" really means "below market rate" in most cases. I've found the best postings list their minimum ($70k+ or whatever). Maximum is irrelevant, as you can assume it's around 20% of that minimum. It shows what salaries and skill expertise they're after.

I've seen ads that list a salary range of "$100-200K." Not sure what skill level they're aiming for there.

Re: Ask HN: Are you more likely to apply for a job that discloses salary upfront?

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Post by allfou »

Nope. I'd most likely apply for something I believe will be enjoyable 8-10 hours a day, Monday to Friday from January to December. It's called employee retention and you should evaluate that metric yourself. If you let your employer handle that part it'll be about knowing how much will be your next salary increase. Which falls back to your question. Short term versus long term.

Re: Ask HN: Are you more likely to apply for a job that discloses salary upfront?

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Post by rhizome »

derekp7 wrote: post #37

Here's the problem though -- often times, someone may have an open position or two, for a range of skill levels. So they interview, and determine what skill bucket the candidate falls into, and makes an offer based on that. So the only way to solve that in a job listing, is to either give a wide salary range (50k - 150k, for example), which then becomes useless. Or to have one posting that lists a number of positions…

If that's the case, then they're simply cheaping out on paying for separate ads. Which is a red flag to me.

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Post by derekp7 »

rhizome wrote: post #65
derekp7 wrote: post #37

Here's the problem though -- often times, someone may have an open position or two, for a range of skill levels. So they interview, and determine what skill bucket the candidate falls into, and makes an offer based on that. So the only way to solve that in a job listing, is to either give a wide salary range (50k - 150k, for example), which then becomes useless. Or to have one posting that lists a number of positions…

If that's the case, then they're simply cheaping out on paying for separate ads. Which is a red flag to me.

Except they may not have 3 positions open -- just one position, but they may be willing to hire a more junior person with the hopes of training them and given them an upward career path. (Unfortunately for the employee, the pay doesn't typically increase as their skill increases).
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