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An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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How about *nix desktop? I miss the days where a TWM was "enough". I started with TWM on Xterms and DECstations, moving up to CTWM on DEC alphas. I finally switched away from CTWM around the year 2000, due to it not supporting some kind of modern nonsense that web browsers wanted. Thankfully, KDE let me configure most of the keybindings in my .twmrc file & retain my muscle memory. Gnome rejected a patch that I sent th…

Someone write an ode to CDE!

CDE always felt incredibly organized to me. Fond memories.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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How about *nix desktop? I miss the days where a TWM was "enough". I started with TWM on Xterms and DECstations, moving up to CTWM on DEC alphas. I finally switched away from CTWM around the year 2000, due to it not supporting some kind of modern nonsense that web browsers wanted. Thankfully, KDE let me configure most of the keybindings in my .twmrc file & retain my muscle memory. Gnome rejected a patch that I sent th…

Which desktop technology though - at one point (~1990) I had a login menu that prompted me to select Sunview, X or NeWS. TWM was the first X window manager I used, I remember spending ages getting it just so - just in time for a newer fancier one to come out (probably olwm in OpenWindows) - liked mwm for a few years as well. Must be something that I grew out of as I don't spend that much time personalizing computing…

> Must be something that I grew out of as I don't spend that much time personalizing computing environments these days.

I've had the same experience. I now find it easier to adapt myself to the defaults than to change the defaults every time I'm somewhere new.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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> Because they ship your bug fixes.

Sadly they often don't. Especially on the desktop most open source developers seem to be doing the work for free and it's totally understandable that they prefer playing around with new features rather than fixing bugs.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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post #32

Related to Ubuntu's Unity (might apply to other environments): I remember last time I switched from Windows (~3 years ago) it was once again harsh on my eyes. The way things (fonts?) are rendered is just different. What made me survive the first days was switching the default font to Roboto Condensed (of Google fame) [1] with: sudo apt-get install fonts-roboto unity-tweak-tool I wouldn't want to trade it for any othe…

Curiously for me it's the opposite, I like very much the default Unity (14.04) font / anti-aliasing / rendering, I find it is much easier/pleasant to read that the default in Windows (Segoe UI?), bolder and "smoother", so to speak.

I've tried calibrating the ClearType features and it's better, but still way worse than the Ubuntu default. Has anyone felt the same and/or found any solution?

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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post #33

This brought back memories, but I haven't had to do any of those things for ten years or so now. I've been careful in my hardware purchases, yes, but I've been running mostly Fedora on a couple of ThinkPads and it almost always just keeps on working. Especially the last four or five years, which is about how long it's been since I last had to switch to Ubuntu because Fedora was too broken. The latest shock was upgrad…

I'm running Fedora 24 on my laptop and just installed 25 on a desktop, and I can't tell any difference in user experience. They did a great job indeed!

I've switched to running Linux full time on my work desktop or laptop around Ubuntu Lucid, and then switched to Fedora around 18 or 19. I'll run some Ubuntu desktop VMs from time to time for certain things, but for most things I prefer Fedora.

I can't wait for the Dell XPS 13 DE that my wife just ordered for me for Christmas to arrive in the mail.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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I'm a very happy Xubuntu user. Have been for about 5 years, and even switched my partners laptop over to it a few months ago, after her win10 borked itself. Previously I used to dual boot windows and Slackware, but after 10 odd years on Slackware I wanted a Linux system I could just use and not spend every minute tweaking.

I must be getting old.

But I still have fond memories of plugging into Ethernet to get online with lynx and try to find out how did I manage to fuč up WiFi and Xorg by editing and completely unrelated (or so I thought) file.

Ah, good times.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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I'm so glad this one reached the top page in HN. It's our chance to talk about it.

I've been using Linux on my personal and professional desktops since 2006. I really enjoyed when Ubuntu got its presence and relevance in the scene, and I didn't mind when they decided to adopt Unity. KDE has always been my preferred option until I read an article where Linus T. said he used Gnome. So by the time I moved to Gnome I also doubled by RAM and swapped to a SSD. Those were the happiest days in my life. Using a computer was a real joy mainly because of response times brought down to nearly zero. OpenOffice, Files, browsers, and IMs were loaded before you could notice you had released the mouse button. I even started to advertise this terminology among friends and family: "instant computing experience". It was my own way to describe experience to Windows users who still had to wait seconds for things to load on their screens.

Those were the gold pre-UEFI days. Machines were shipped OEM with Windows 7, which you could swipe out and replace with your favorite Linux ditro. No strings attached, no major headaches etc. Of course, some would have to struggle to make some hardware work, but once those things were sorted out and optimized, again: pure joy.

I'm writing this because I hate UEFI. It made my life difficult because I have a hard time whenever I decide to install Linux on any new machine. Double or single boot, it doesn't matter.

Today the so-called "instant computing experience" is just as a memory in my head. I'm stuck with Windows 10 and trying to get used to the fact applications take time to load. I wave to wait. I wait for the OS to start up. I wait until it resumes from sleeping mode. I wait for everything.

I'm waiting for a definitive solution to the UEFI problem either from Ubuntu or from the community. Desperately!

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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I'm so glad this one reached the top page in HN. It's our chance to talk about it. I've been using Linux on my personal and professional desktops since 2006. I really enjoyed when Ubuntu got its presence and relevance in the scene, and I didn't mind when they decided to adopt Unity. KDE has always been my preferred option until I read an article where Linus T. said he used Gnome. So by the time I moved to Gnome I als…

Dont know what issue you had with UEFI but these days it should be possible for you to install Fedora / Ubuntu on a UEFI machine without any issues.
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