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An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#21
For anyone who misses it, this is a reference to Apple's 1997 Think Different marketing campaign. The original ode is here: http://www.thecrazyones.it/spot-en.html

I'd forgotten about this campaign, and I would have missed the reference myself, but I just happened to listen to an audiobook chapter from Steve Jobs' biography yesterday.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#22
I current use Unity on Ubuntu 16.04 as my main system and I prefer it to my macbook pro and Windows desktop. Its smooth, fast and minimal.

For someone who has used Linux desktops for more than 15 years it has come a long way. Gnome and Kde are both good but Unity provides a rare minimalism and polish on Linux.

But for those who need specialized apps that app determines their work machine.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#23
How about *nix desktop?

I miss the days where a TWM was "enough". I started with TWM on Xterms and DECstations, moving up to CTWM on DEC alphas. I finally switched away from CTWM around the year 2000, due to it not supporting some kind of modern nonsense that web browsers wanted. Thankfully, KDE let me configure most of the keybindings in my .twmrc file & retain my muscle memory. Gnome rejected a patch that I sent them to allow the same config there, so I've been using KDE ever since.

I ran FreeBSD for years as a desktop and always thought Linux was the gold standard for things like KDE. First FreeBSD/alpha in the early 2000s, and then FreeBSD/i386 on a P4. I remember getting sick of things "not working", switching to Ubuntu, and realizing that things were just as flaky there. So after ~6 years on a linux desktop, I'm back to FreeBSD.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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post #20

I use desktop linux on my work computer, it barely works and I have some issues. Although it's red hat enterprise which is running a lot of old shit. I think using a friendlier distro like Ubuntu or Fedora would probably be a lot better and give a much better experience.

I use Ubuntu on my work PC. - had to buy a 2nd GPU to get 3 monitors to work - GPU driver won't drive my 2560x1440 monitor at the max res - popup volume control pops up every minute or so (and sound pops and stutters a bit each time this happens) - when waking from sleep, TTY works immediately, but GUI takes about 30 seconds to appear - something crashes on every boot, but it doesn't tell me what (I dutifully submit…

Sounds like problems with the video card drivers. In Linux, it pays to research how well hardware is supported before you buy it, especially for video and wifi. Even then, you may still benefit from looking at alternative drivers or seeing if there are xorg.conf or kernel boot time options that resolve those issues.

Whether it's worth the trouble of tracking down arcane options to get your system working optimally is up to you. For most people it's not worth the effort, so there are relatively few of us running Linux on the desktop. If you're willing to put in the time and effort (and you happen to have compatible hardware) it is possible to get a system that matches or exceeds proprietary software desktops. Just be prepared to start all over again when you upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#25

How about *nix desktop? I miss the days where a TWM was "enough". I started with TWM on Xterms and DECstations, moving up to CTWM on DEC alphas. I finally switched away from CTWM around the year 2000, due to it not supporting some kind of modern nonsense that web browsers wanted. Thankfully, KDE let me configure most of the keybindings in my .twmrc file & retain my muscle memory. Gnome rejected a patch that I sent th…

Which desktop technology though - at one point (~1990) I had a login menu that prompted me to select Sunview, X or NeWS.

TWM was the first X window manager I used, I remember spending ages getting it just so - just in time for a newer fancier one to come out (probably olwm in OpenWindows) - liked mwm for a few years as well.

Must be something that I grew out of as I don't spend that much time personalizing computing environments these days.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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post #3

Unfortunately, this is true, we have all been there.

I started writing a post about the latest addition to my ~/.bash_profile file: ``` # Restart Network Driver alias n="sudo modprobe -r ath10k_pci && sudo modprobe ath10k_pci" ``` And ended up stealing the Apple ad instead. Much more fun. :)

I had a similar alias in my eeePC (broadcom wifi drivers, which needed to be restarted after every boot). And I remember days of printing out xorg.conf documentation and random help threads at the library, in the hopes that I could finally convince nvidia drivers to give me graphics again. That said, I'm glad that nowadays my Linux problems tend to be more along the lines of "notifications aren't making noise when a video is playing" and not system-breaking bugs.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

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post #24
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Ubuntu on my work PC. - had to buy a 2nd GPU to get 3 monitors to work - GPU driver won't drive my 2560x1440 monitor at the max res - popup volume control pops up every minute or so (and sound pops and stutters a bit each time this happens) - when waking from sleep, TTY works immediately, but GUI takes about 30 seconds to appear - something crashes on every boot, but it doesn't tell me what (I dutifully submit…

Sounds like problems with the video card drivers. In Linux, it pays to research how well hardware is supported before you buy it, especially for video and wifi. Even then, you may still benefit from looking at alternative drivers or seeing if there are xorg.conf or kernel boot time options that resolve those issues. Whether it's worth the trouble of tracking down arcane options to get your system working optimally is…

It always pays to research if your hardware is supported on given OS, whether it's Linux, macOS or Windows.

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#29

I think status quo is a good thing. Linux users don't want stuff to break for no good reason. I say this after reading the article, then hoping that the new kernel install doesn't bring back the video tearing/blinking when moving the mouse from screen 0 to 1.

At least we can downgrade our kernels without re-install-and-recover-from-time-machine though, but otherwise yea :)

Re: An Ode to Linux Desktop Users Everywhere

#30
Funny but really out of date. :-)

I used to do some sysadmin stuff a long time ago, but am losing my UNIX/Linux skills -- because the Ubuntu (and follow ups) desktop just works with very little trouble, since lots of years. It seems I only use apt-get these days.

Maybe I am just careful when I buy hardware, I don't know.

That said, right now I am irritated and will soon have to download and read sources, because of problems getting an ipsec configuration to work on Mint 18. (It worked copying it from Ubuntu to Mint 17.3).

But I really can't remember the previous time I broke out the source.

Edit: It seems most people have the same experience as me. (I should also add to my claims of only needing apt-get, that it often work better if I get printer drivers from the manufacturer and not from the distro.)

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