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You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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Did these guys pay a fee to YC? They seem to pop up weekly on the front page.

I doubt they paid a fee. But clearly, they're either gaming the system or there's a very large population on HN who are trying to break into the industry with no credentials.

Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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Did these guys pay a fee to YC? They seem to pop up weekly on the front page.

I doubt they paid a fee. But clearly, they're either gaming the system or there's a very large population on HN who are trying to break into the industry with no credentials.

What's wrong with having 'no credentials'?

Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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Did these guys pay a fee to YC? They seem to pop up weekly on the front page.

I think Freecodecamp just has a very active and large community that generally shares/upvotes things.

FYI, they have 204,000 github stars (https://github.com/FreeCodeCamp/FreeCodeCamp)

Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they paid a fee. But clearly, they're either gaming the system or there's a very large population on HN who are trying to break into the industry with no credentials.

What's wrong with having 'no credentials'?

From what I have research, a computer science degree and a boot camp certificate are very different in terms of education. The former focuses on depth and the fundamentals of CS. The latter is more practical and focuses implementation where languages matter more.

Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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and guess what? You don't need a website either.

Step 1: Get a copy of "The C Programming Language" by Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan.

Step 2: Learn the fundamentals

Step 3: Master other languages

Edit...I know there's been a lot of negativity towards my comment and I can understand why. I like to keep my comments simple and leave it to the reader's interpretation. However, it seems my comment was too simple...

Let's focus on step 2, as step 1 and 3 are out of the scope of my comment. "Learn the fundamentals". As with any profession, trade, basketball player, high-rise building, pyramid, etc. you need to have solid fundamentals. What does that mean for programmers and developers? It means understanding computer theory. It means learning about the stack. It means learning the difference between big endian vs little endian. Learning memory allocation in C for an array is every bit as important as learning how to var arr = [].

Sure you can skip the fundamentals (hard stuff?) and go straight to high level languages but should you?

Re: You might not need that $15K coding bootcamp

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and guess what? You don't need a website either. Step 1: Get a copy of "The C Programming Language" by Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan. Step 2: Learn the fundamentals Step 3: Master other languages Edit...I know there's been a lot of negativity towards my comment and I can understand why. I like to keep my comments simple and leave it to the reader's interpretation. However, it seems my comment was too simple... Let'…

That's ludicrous, IMO. I think that people who are in the market for a $15k coding bootcamp should steer way clear of K&R (and LCTHW). Why? Because C is not the right tool for 95% of the jobs the coding bootcamp crowd will be asked to solve.

Don't get me wrong, C's great and I followed your three-step process over the years. But we don't need to do that anymore because most devs will just eke out the slimmest benefit to understanding those details.

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