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What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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The block reward is 12.5 BTC now, it is not 25 BTC any more. Also Cryptsy ended up failing and is no longer functional. This article is outdated.

> Article is new, but it seems the content is based on old info.

That's what "This article is outdated" means.

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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I still don't understand what happens after all the bitcoins have been mined. It seems to be designed to just fail eventually and be replaced, which I cannot reconcile against the elegance of the rest of the design. To clarify: bitcoins can go away forever. About 6 years ago and had a wallet with a couple bitcoins in it. I have lost the key to that bitcoin wallet and if I can't find it, and noone else can find it, th…

Bitcoins can be split and divided up to 8 decimal points. You can own 0.00000001 BTC. Additionally, the software could be forked to allow division of BTC to a more granular amount than 0.00000001, meaning if all but 1 BTC were lost the entire world could still transact with that last singular BTC by dividing it up into smaller units.

The problem is we don't really know what's lost and what's in storage.

It could be that all those lost bitcoins are just sitting in someone's harddrive, waiting for moment to crash the market

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoins can be split and divided up to 8 decimal points. You can own 0.00000001 BTC. Additionally, the software could be forked to allow division of BTC to a more granular amount than 0.00000001, meaning if all but 1 BTC were lost the entire world could still transact with that last singular BTC by dividing it up into smaller units.

The problem is we don't really know what's lost and what's in storage. It could be that all those lost bitcoins are just sitting in someone's harddrive, waiting for moment to crash the market

That is a similar but separate problem. It is admittedly a larger problem in particular for bitcoin and other currency systems with fixed supply.

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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I still don't understand what happens after all the bitcoins have been mined. It seems to be designed to just fail eventually and be replaced, which I cannot reconcile against the elegance of the rest of the design. To clarify: bitcoins can go away forever. About 6 years ago and had a wallet with a couple bitcoins in it. I have lost the key to that bitcoin wallet and if I can't find it, and noone else can find it, th…

You're missing a cottage industry finding exploitable bug in some bad bitcoin libraries' key generation or signing code that will then be used to recover private key and salvage formerly lost bitcoins that are now worth an absolute fortune through rarity.

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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Bitcoin will never be a mainstream medium for exchanging goods just by the fact that its harder to explain casual/newbies that 1 USD gets you 0.001XXX BTC or less and those the reason why the "point system" used by virtual money in videogames is more appealing than explaining their money value in nano cents units. IMHO bitcoin is a proof on how far people can go just to buy illegal drugs.

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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A tangentially related question (I am a complete ignoramus when it comes to bitcoin). Suppose I could harness the power of 1,000 or even 10,000 private computers distributed over the internet and all contributing resources. Could I profitably mine bitcoin?(This is not a theoretical question, I actually do have a way to do this) .

FYI, this has happened about 2 years ago. Bot networks have been used to mine bitcoins, and IT managers have gotten in trouble for using their company/school computer networks to mine bitcoins.

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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It is. Not a lawyer, but my understanding is that it is handled as a capital gains tax. So you buy some bitcoin, it fluctuates wildly over the course of a week, and you convert back to fiat. You then pay taxes on any earnings from that. So if you bought 1 flubbercoin for 900 USD and sold it a week later for 1200 USD, you are liable for that 300 USD in gained capital. Here is a marginally more technical description ht…

Not really related, but how about mining? What will happen once all the mining costs go down? What system will be put in place?

CmdrSprinkles is incorrect: at least in the United States, mining and other forms of receiving Bitcoins are no different in principle from receiving large quantities of other non-dollar goods or currencies that have an estimable dollar value.

The Bitcoin wiki article on this is incomplete, but informative[0].

[0]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tax_compliance#Are_bitcoins_taxab...

Re: What Is Bitcoin? A Step-By-Step Guide for Beginners

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really related, but how about mining? What will happen once all the mining costs go down? What system will be put in place?

At that point: Theoretically nothing. At that point the currency is stable and its value adjusts to very small degrees (if any) and it is no different than dave and busters money. You're taxed on your income and all you are doing is adding an extra layer of indirection before spending. And if you were paid in bitcoin, you have the same capital gains to report when you effectively translate it to fiat while buying you…

> And if you were paid in bitcoin, you have the same capital gains to report when you effectively translate it to fiat while buying your new Gameboy.

But what if you never have to translate it to a "real currency"?

Granted - bitcoin isn't anon - but let's suppose it was (or there existed a e-currency that was). If every transaction in the entire supply chain was carried out using such a currency, how would any government ever know (without inserting a MITM into the supply chain)?

An alternative thought: If you conducted all aspects of your life cash-only, how would the g-man "get you"? I suppose Al Capone could be brought up as an explanation (whatever was the reasoning there) - but there were other factors involved (they wanted him for other reasons, but tax-evasion was the easiest way - at least, according to what we've been told).

But as long as you conducted your affairs completely off-the-books, and only worked with vetted (or anonymous) others who were doing the same (so you never transacted cash with a government official or someone working for them) - how would they know?

Another thought experiment: If you conducted everything using barter (let's suppose that were possible) - would you then owe the government so many chickens or pigs as "tax"?

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