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Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by TallGuyShort »

dandare wrote: post #53

I have not visited any Microsoft property for some time now and I have this strange feeling about the UX. Sadly I can not say if it is my deeply rooted aversion against everything Microsoft or if the UX is really odd.

I was in a similar situation a short time ago. Although I found it required a lot of screen space to work well, it could be a little slow, and it took some getting used to, it really grew on me. The hierarchical drill-down was really nice once you had a lot of different types of resources. I like AWS' interface, but sometimes I miss the feel of that navigation...

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by MikusR »

anc84 wrote: post #55
elsen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13104807 Click on the eye icon. You won't be able to run the notebook code, which would be a surprising thing to allow without some sort of authentication.

That's a shame, I was hoping to be able to use these for interactive learning. Requiring signup is a showstopper for me. :(

If requiring signup is a showstopper how are you posting on HN?

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by chupapuma »

dandare wrote: post #53

I have not visited any Microsoft property for some time now and I have this strange feeling about the UX. Sadly I can not say if it is my deeply rooted aversion against everything Microsoft or if the UX is really odd.

Hi dandare. I am a dev on Azure Notebooks at Microsoft and can tell you that our team also delivers Python Tools for Visual Studio, Azure SDK for Python, R Tools for Visual Studio, and previously Node.js Tools for Visual Studio.

The UX was not done in any way to feel like something else. We tried to design something that worked well for Jupyter users as well as looked nice and was usable.

That being said, our teams strengths are not in UX by far. We are starting to work with designers to improve the "dev-UI"" we currently have.

If you have any more feedback you would like to share we would love to hear it. There is a public tracker at https://github.com/microsoft/azurenotebooks and an email that goes to the team at nbhelp@microsoft.com

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by smortaz »

nickcw wrote: post #23

I've been experimenting with Jupyter notebooks recently so I thought I'd try uploading one I made which solves a wooden puzzle. It seemed to work just fine! https://notebooks.azure.com/library/puzzles I had to host the images in the notebook elsewhere rather than upload them with the notebook. It looks like that is possible but then I'd have to grapple with Azure blobs...

Hi! Proper data support is coming soon. For now, you can link directly to blobs, github, etc.

[msft]

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by chupapuma »

enricosada wrote: post #4

Awesome to see F# supported, based on OSS F# for Jupyter Notebooks ( https://github.com/fsprojects/IfSharp ) work. It's really lovely when a tool written in another tech (Python there) can be used/extended with others stack/tech, because was written as language agnostic. That should be a rule for good design in oss tooling. Not starting using language specific communication, but extensibile from day0 in design (obv d…

Thanks enricsosada. I am a dev on Azure Notebooks and I spent time working with a couple of people in Microsoft Research to get this going and we are very happy with the result. The F# community has been very helpful in getting this going.

If there are other languages you would like to see, or other features or issues, reach out to us on https://github.com/microsoft/azurenotebooks or nbhelp@microsoft.com

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by smortaz »

dandare wrote: post #53

I have not visited any Microsoft property for some time now and I have this strange feeling about the UX. Sadly I can not say if it is my deeply rooted aversion against everything Microsoft or if the UX is really odd.

As chupapuma said, we aren't UI folks and all feedback is welcome. We hope to update it gradually in the coming year :). The original UI was done by one of our summer interns. [EDIT] didn't want to make it sound like I'm blaming our intern - he was awesome, especially if you'd seen the previous rev!

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by smortaz »

matt4077 wrote: post #3

The concept of Jupyer Notebooks is absolute fantastic. The product, unfortunately, fails at the basics of being a text editor. I'd wish the VSCode team could somehow integrate the concept. They seem to be excellent at execution. (Or, if they finish their work on "html zones" (block decorators in atom), I'll start doing it myself)

[msft] You are quite correct that the REPL/cell paradigm has its pluses & minuses. That's why the follow on (Jupyter Lab), is addressing many of these issues. Check out:

https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by rjbwork »

madenine wrote: post #37
rjbwork wrote: post #2

Very interesting. I just put some R code into production on Azure via MS R Server (DeployR), and it was not a particularly fun experience. I really want to see them do a hosted R service where we can just take these Jupyter Notebooks and expose it as a web service on a PAYG basis.

Depending on what you're doing - deploy a webservice with Azure ML?

We looked at that, in fact it was my first recommendation, but the way it forces you to set things up is less than ideal. We may give it another go, but it was not conducive to just taking the data scientist's R code and exposing it as a web endpoint - it requires a complete restructuring of the code.

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by smortaz »

gressquel wrote: post #16
matt4077 wrote: post #3

The concept of Jupyer Notebooks is absolute fantastic. The product, unfortunately, fails at the basics of being a text editor. I'd wish the VSCode team could somehow integrate the concept. They seem to be excellent at execution. (Or, if they finish their work on "html zones" (block decorators in atom), I'll start doing it myself)

the UI is really bad. Idea is great from Microsoft but the execution leaves alot to be desired. I hope MS fixes this because I kinda like this service and can see myself using it.

Thanks for feedback. We hope to keep iterating on the UI in the coming year. We'd love to improve it based on your suggestions (we're admittedly weak on that front). nbhelp@microsoft.com.

Re: Azure Jupyter Notebooks

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Post by chupapuma »

wyldfire wrote: post #52
mrmondo wrote: post #51

Sorry to sound cynical but haven't they taken something that's existed for a long time and spent money on marketing it to add / repair value to their brand? It feels a little obvious to me to be honest?

I suppose it's publicly hosted which might be rare or totally new. TBH the most frustrating thing is that unlike github's notebook hosting you need to login just to view the content. And for some reason the back button doesn't work once you encounter the login page. That's enough to make me want to stay away.

Thanks for the feedback wyldfire. I am a dev on Azure Notebooks and wanted to mention we do allow viewing the content without login. However, to be in an executable context (jupyter) we require login. Our samples, in order to avoid extra clicks, take you straight into an executable environment.

Any notebook can be opened in an html view: https://notebooks.azure.com/library/fsharp/html/FSharp%20for...

It sounds like you would like being able to view those more easily without logging in?

Thanks! Chris

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