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Re: State of Startups

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So 10% of startups give out more than 1% of equity to a mid-level engineer ? Perhaps this is a small sample, but it sounds odd.

If you think your first 3 hires deserve less than 1% then you probably shouldn't be hiring them. Alternatively, you gave too much equity to your investors. That's how I see it.

Re: State of Startups

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post #5

So 10% of startups give out more than 1% of equity to a mid-level engineer ? Perhaps this is a small sample, but it sounds odd.

What should first and second hire get? 1 or 2% doesn't seem crazy after a seed round.

Anyone who puts in sweat equity should get double digits IMO (unless the company has been around for years as a one man band, and maybe even then.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I mean is, Europe generally does not even come close to that level of pay/compensation. So I assumed that these are US based startups. I could be wrong though.

Yes but you (generally) get other things like universal healthcare, free or cheap university, retirement plans, no need for a car due to proper urban planning, etc. In the US you have to shell out for all these things, paying into a private 401(k) for retirement, paying back student loan debt, paying for your health insurance etc. And these are at well funded tech firms.

So basically, a mid-range profession in the US is comparable to a mid-range profession in the EU, a high-end profession in the US earns heaps more, and a low-end profession (or unskilled job) in the US means you're screwed?

Re: State of Startups

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Interesting answers on lack of gender diversity in IT: Most of the men believe the reason is that there just aren't that many women entering the field, while almost all the women blame bias at various stages of education, hiring and promotion. Someone has a cognitive dissonance.

Re: State of Startups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I mean is, Europe generally does not even come close to that level of pay/compensation. So I assumed that these are US based startups. I could be wrong though.

Yes but you (generally) get other things like universal healthcare, free or cheap university, retirement plans, no need for a car due to proper urban planning, etc. In the US you have to shell out for all these things, paying into a private 401(k) for retirement, paying back student loan debt, paying for your health insurance etc. And these are at well funded tech firms.

While true, that doesn't even come close to filling the gap.

In Berlin "the silicon valley of Europe", as people here like to say, there are pretty much zero engineering jobs paying >$100k/year. There is some magical ceiling of around $90k/year, no matter how senior you are. This isn't only true for startups but pretty much any company.

That's one of the reasons I work remote for Silicon Valley.

Re: State of Startups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I mean is, Europe generally does not even come close to that level of pay/compensation. So I assumed that these are US based startups. I could be wrong though.

Yes but you (generally) get other things like universal healthcare, free or cheap university, retirement plans, no need for a car due to proper urban planning, etc. In the US you have to shell out for all these things, paying into a private 401(k) for retirement, paying back student loan debt, paying for your health insurance etc. And these are at well funded tech firms.

You already get healthcare with US startups.. so that isn't a "benefit" of Europe.

"Proper urban planning?" Hah. In Paris you pay San Franscico housing prices or you spend over an hour on strike-prone un-air conditioned buses or trains.

As far as retirement plans, pay me more and I'll invest it myself. If I make $150k per year, that's almost triple a French salary -- plenty of extra money to start my own damned retirement fund without depending on the government.

On top of that in Europe the small salary you do get is subject to confiscatory tax rates. Then (in France at least, you have a 20% VAT, high fuel costs and higher costs for basic utilities.) Food costs more, services cost more -- everything costs more. At the end of the day your net income is far far less than the US, even factoring in all of the 'free' stuff. But hey at least you can get employer sponsored 'free' lunch cheques and mandatory vacation time.

I live in France and I like living here, but I pay dearly for that benefit. I am not here because it's a good value. Financially and socially and well as entrepreneurially I would be better off in Houston, but I love the Provençal weather, the wine and the laid back feel of living in the countryside -- but a good value? Definitely not. If I had to survive on a French salary, there'd be no way I would choose to live here.

Here's some data to support: https://mises.org/blog/poor-us-are-richer-middle-class-much-...

Re: State of Startups

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What should first and second hire get? 1 or 2% doesn't seem crazy after a seed round.

Anyone who puts in sweat equity should get double digits IMO (unless the company has been around for years as a one man band, and maybe even then.)

Double digit ownership usually means the person is a cofounder. This question was about engineers.

Re: State of Startups

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post #27
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who puts in sweat equity should get double digits IMO (unless the company has been around for years as a one man band, and maybe even then.)

Double digit ownership usually means the person is a cofounder. This question was about engineers.

...who by definition aren't cofounders? Maybe I'm on the wrong site. O.o

Re: State of Startups

#29
post #16
post #15

I love this one: How confident are you that you're building a billion dollar company? Answers: 1. I'm certain that we will - 18% 2. I'm confident we have a decent shot at it - 42% Thumbs up for the optimism!

Well, they are telling this to VCs afterall...

Recently on a John Oliver segment, Oliver was speculating on how Trump University received 98% excellent approval ratings from current students. Turns out that the students were asked to give feedback while still enrolled in the course, meaning that giving a bad review could negatively influence their grade or relationship with the teachers, and thus the students were motivated to give more positive answers than they otherwise might have.

I wonder if founders giving answers here had names attached to their answers or if they were anonymous at submission-time.

Re: State of Startups

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Are we in a bubble answered yes is declining from 73% -> 57%. That means the real probability of being in a bubble just increased ;P Remember the 2008 crisis was only seen by very few in advance...
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