Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
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Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#2I wonder if Aryeh Deri has picked up a directorship at DNA Bioscience. This is what David Blunkett did in the UK while he was pressing hard for a biometric identity card and national database for the UK.
Checking his wikipedia page, it seems there's no need to give him a directorship. He'll accept cash:
""" After Deri was convicted of taking $155,000 in bribes while serving as Interior Minister, and was given a three-year jail sentence in 2000. He was replaced by Eli Yishai.[1][2] Due to good behavior, Deri was released from Maasiyahu Prison in 2002 after serving 22 months.[3] """
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#3I wonder if Aryeh Deri has picked up a directorship at DNA Bioscience. This is what David Blunkett did in the UK while he was pressing hard for a biometric identity card and national database for the UK. Checking his wikipedia page, it seems there's no need to give him a directorship. He'll accept cash: """ After Deri was convicted of taking $155,000 in bribes while serving as Interior Minister, and was given a three…
It's curious how politicians, all around the world, almost never fulfill their sentences. At least that's how it looks.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#4Unfortunately, despite wide consensus within the academic and professional communities, there's no real public backlash against the biometrics database.
It's hard to explain to a common Israeli why a database is dangerous. The security argument is blinding, and it seems like we are going towards making this huge mistake.
There's currently an effort to stop this and a crowd-funding campaign launched this week aiming to finance a plea to the supreme court is so far successful (https://www.headstart.co.il/project.aspx?id=19914)
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#5I wonder if Aryeh Deri has picked up a directorship at DNA Bioscience. This is what David Blunkett did in the UK while he was pressing hard for a biometric identity card and national database for the UK. Checking his wikipedia page, it seems there's no need to give him a directorship. He'll accept cash: """ After Deri was convicted of taking $155,000 in bribes while serving as Interior Minister, and was given a three…
It's curious how politicians, all around the world, almost never fulfill their sentences. At least that's how it looks.
Most prisoners in Israel and in many other countries don't serve the full length of their sentences.
You end up serving 1/3rd to 1/2 of your sentence by default, "Good Behaviour" usually means that you haven't started any riots or shanked a guard.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#6Unfortunately, despite wide consensus within the academic and professional communities, there's no real public backlash against the biometrics database. It's hard to explain to a common Israeli why a database is dangerous. The security argument is blinding, and it seems like we are going towards making this huge mistake. There's currently an effort to stop this and a crowd-funding campaign launched this week aiming t…
It is the same in India, and I guess same everywhere. Because of people being illiterate and with the attitude of "this can never happen to me", we have a unique ID system forced down the throat of the citizens.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#7I wonder if Aryeh Deri has picked up a directorship at DNA Bioscience. This is what David Blunkett did in the UK while he was pressing hard for a biometric identity card and national database for the UK. Checking his wikipedia page, it seems there's no need to give him a directorship. He'll accept cash: """ After Deri was convicted of taking $155,000 in bribes while serving as Interior Minister, and was given a three…
It's curious how politicians, all around the world, almost never fulfill their sentences. At least that's how it looks.
In the United States it's not all that curious, because most prisoners do not serve their full sentence. The expected time served for a new prisoner is something like 87% of their sentence.
If a Federal prisoner serving a sentence that is more than one year and not a life sentence "has displayed exemplary compliance with institutional disciplinary regulations" for a year gets credit for 54 days on his sentence. (18 U.S. Code § 3624).
If you are in a maximum security prison, it might be hard to avoid getting into trouble because there is heavy gang activity at maximum security prisons and you may have to align with a gang to survive. I'd expect most politicians in prison, though, to be in low security prisons, and there is very little gang presence in low security prisons. Thus, I'd expect politicians (and other white collar prisoners in general) to usually be model prisoners.
I'd expect that it is somewhat similar in most justice systems that have a time off for good behavior reward.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#8Unfortunately, despite wide consensus within the academic and professional communities, there's no real public backlash against the biometrics database. It's hard to explain to a common Israeli why a database is dangerous. The security argument is blinding, and it seems like we are going towards making this huge mistake. There's currently an effort to stop this and a crowd-funding campaign launched this week aiming t…
I would have thought a country where some parliamentarians still have their Auchwitz numbers tatooed on their arms would understand, but I guess everyone assumes that the database will be used against some other ethnic group instead.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#9Unfortunately, despite wide consensus within the academic and professional communities, there's no real public backlash against the biometrics database. It's hard to explain to a common Israeli why a database is dangerous. The security argument is blinding, and it seems like we are going towards making this huge mistake. There's currently an effort to stop this and a crowd-funding campaign launched this week aiming t…
> It's hard to explain to a common Israeli why a database is dangerous.
If true, that's a huge educational failure. After all, Israel exists because the Nazis were a bit too good at using paper-based databases, with "unique biometric IDs" on people's arms. It's astonishing that Israeli citizens, of all people, should have forgotten where this sort of approach inevitably leads.
Re: Israeli government’s call for mandatory biometric ID system met with backlash
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's curious how politicians, all around the world, almost never fulfill their sentences. At least that's how it looks.
Most prisoners in Israel and in many other countries don't serve the full length of their sentences. You end up serving 1/3rd to 1/2 of your sentence by default, "Good Behaviour" usually means that you haven't started any riots or shanked a guard.
That's often because prisons everywhere are full to the brink. The increase in criminalization of all sorts of common behaviours (from drugs to copyright infringement) naturally leads to overcrowding, which in turns leads to continuous amnesties and sentence discounts.