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Re: My Google Internship

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Post by onion2k »

chmln wrote: post #58

Great read. However, he lost me at > Googley to stand up for diversity and inclusion, such as protesting against binary gendering on toilets Is it Google's business? Why should Google be involved? Why cater to 0.6% of the population, at the expense of convenience for the 99.4%? At my last job we had "non-binary", "all-inclusive" bathrooms. They're just awkward. Not the stalls themselves, but having to share the bathr…

Why cater to 0.6% of the population, at the expense of convenience for the 99.4%?

Do all those 99.4% of people consider it an "expense"? A lot of people are happy to make a small sacrifice if it greatly benefits other people.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by anongoogle3432 »

chmln wrote: post #58

Great read. However, he lost me at > Googley to stand up for diversity and inclusion, such as protesting against binary gendering on toilets Is it Google's business? Why should Google be involved? Why cater to 0.6% of the population, at the expense of convenience for the 99.4%? At my last job we had "non-binary", "all-inclusive" bathrooms. They're just awkward. Not the stalls themselves, but having to share the bathr…

Google is extremely politically correct. I'm a free speech advocate and someone opposed to identity politics and the privilege narrative. I don't feel comfortable talking about my views at Google, but my coworkers who feel otherwise talk about their views constantly.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by chimmy88 »

namelezz wrote: post #25
munificent wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When you realize all of the toys are part of an extremely successful strategy to keep you at the office as long as possible Ugh, I can't believe how often I see this repeated with zero evidence to support it. I work at Google. The office is a ghost town by 6:30. The work life balance on every team I'm aware of is great . Saying the perks are some underhanded strategy to keep people around hugely insults the intelli…

> skilled software engineers are in very high demand and companies compete very hard for them I keep hearing this but when I ask how to identify skilled engineers things get confused. ;)

To sound as snarky as you do, if you can't identify skilled engineers, you aren't one.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by mining »

uiri wrote: post #44
amaks wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does. All interns that receive good evaluation feedback are offered to transition into full-time employees and this transition may not even require interview loop.

It always requires a partial interview loop (the "conversion" interviews) now; they changed it in the last year or two.

Nah, 2 or more time interns (only in the US, at the moment? Wasn't the case in Sydney, but was for a friend in Seattle) can get a FTE role if they have really good feedback from t heir internships.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by gefh »

19guid wrote: post #37

> It’s Googley to stand up for diversity and inclusion, such as protesting against binary gendering on toilets So if I support binary gendering on toilets, I'm not welcome at Google? Why has it become necessary to subscribe to a particular set of political beliefs in order to work for Silicon Valley firms?

My goog office has many trans engineers. They're very good at their jobs. I guess they might not want to work in an office designed by you, either now or at some stage in their transition. You'd be missing out on their talent.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by andrewflnr »

Veelox wrote: post #80
19guid wrote: post #37

> It’s Googley to stand up for diversity and inclusion, such as protesting against binary gendering on toilets So if I support binary gendering on toilets, I'm not welcome at Google? Why has it become necessary to subscribe to a particular set of political beliefs in order to work for Silicon Valley firms?

I don't think 19guid has a problem with using a toilet or being an asshole. I think the question is why is dissent from specific political views looked down upon? I have been in Silicon Valley for almost a year now after moving from the Midwest. I have been able to talk freely with my coworkers about some of my conservative views. Yet when I have shared what would count as "traditional values" on internal forums I ha…

It never looks like a "political" issue when you're convinced it's a human rights issue. For a human rights issue, the other side's feelings don't matter because they're obviously assholes anyway, so you can do whatever you want to them to advance The Cause.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by andrewflnr »

mining wrote: post #94
uiri wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It always requires a partial interview loop (the "conversion" interviews) now; they changed it in the last year or two.

Nah, 2 or more time interns (only in the US, at the moment? Wasn't the case in Sydney, but was for a friend in Seattle) can get a FTE role if they have really good feedback from t heir internships.

If so, it's not publicized internally. I interned at Google this summer too, and I didn't hear anything about how I could bypass conversion interviews. Maybe it's a case-by-case discretion thing.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by dancek »

> I spent around three days on my presentation, mainly because I did it in LaTeX instead of PowerPoint, as any sane person would in about one tenth of the time.

This was the only part I could completely identify with. Perhaps even using Google Slides would have been acceptable! But what geek could resist the allure of Beamer... :)

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by dancek »

Veelox wrote: post #80
19guid wrote: post #37

> It’s Googley to stand up for diversity and inclusion, such as protesting against binary gendering on toilets So if I support binary gendering on toilets, I'm not welcome at Google? Why has it become necessary to subscribe to a particular set of political beliefs in order to work for Silicon Valley firms?

I don't think 19guid has a problem with using a toilet or being an asshole. I think the question is why is dissent from specific political views looked down upon? I have been in Silicon Valley for almost a year now after moving from the Midwest. I have been able to talk freely with my coworkers about some of my conservative views. Yet when I have shared what would count as "traditional values" on internal forums I ha…

I'd also love to hear an explanation from someone intolerant of dissent.

I attribute it to the history of feminism. First-wave feminism genuinely dealt with human rights issues where dissent was based on a twisted view of humanity (e.g. women are property of men, not autonomous subjects). The late third and fourth waves have kept the same assumption about the nature of their views. But the views themselves are very much more extreme and unintuitive.

Again, I'd love to hear someone explain it better from their own feminist point of view.

Re: My Google Internship

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Post by danspencer »

Cool article. But I always find it funny how people try to convince you that so-and-so in their company is a big shot ("our director, the fourth highest rank at Google, after CEO, SVP and VP"). Trust me, outside of your company, that person is quite irrelevant. For most people, that person is just someone working at a big company.
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