PrivacyGuard and Orwall prevent applications from using the internet/GPS without your express authorization. Anyway if you want absolute privacy toss your smartphone in the trash can, cancel your contract with your ISP, commit social suicide and go live off the grid.
Uber Now Tracks Passengers’ Locations Even After They’re Dropped Off
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#12This is the perfect example of development for the sake of development. The new user experience is terrible and provides the user with zero extra benefits. I seriously can't see how a product manager signs off on these updates.
This isn't "development for the sake of development", no data collection is for that. This is to figure out where people are going. Addresses give you an idea, but they're not always precise. You may just give an intersection. Now, they're trying to figure out your actual destination.
They're going to use this for monetization somehow. It's always about monetization. '
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#13Yeah REALLY obnoxious. I was just disabling this after another Uber ride. They do not provide the option to enable location services only when the app is running on screen. I think it might be nice if iOS presented this option regardless of what Uber wants.
I switched to Lyft because of this.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think it might be nice if iOS presented this option regardless of what Uber wants. I delete any application that requires all-or-nothing location privileges; if Uber acts this way now I'm done using Uber. Being able to make it such that location services are an all-or-nothing proposition when there is clearly support for "only when using" in iOS annoys me to no end. The fact Apple doesn't do this is what is actua…
>>I delete any application that requires all-or-nothing location privileges; if Uber acts this way now I'm done using Uber. This is the calculated risk Uber is taking. Presumably they believe that they will only lose a tiny sliver of their user base over the all-or-nothing approach. Now that they're well past the "early adoption" phase in many markets this is a "smart" corporate play.
I am aware of the strategy behind Uber's move. My comment above is "count me out".
I doubt they'll lose even 1% of their installed userbase over this change.
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#15Yeah, after being a "dozen rides a week" Uber user for the last year, I switched to Lyft. There is just no reason for this.
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#16Why do we accept this intrusion into our lives?
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#17This is the perfect example of development for the sake of development. The new user experience is terrible and provides the user with zero extra benefits. I seriously can't see how a product manager signs off on these updates.
The Product Manager's bonus probably depends on timely release of new features.
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#18> Uber collects your location data from the time of trip request through five minutes after ends trip ends, including when the app is in the background. We do this to improve pickups, drop-offs, customer service, and to enhance safety. Meh, sounds reasonable as long as they don't collect data outside this window (although they should not make it all-or-nothing, a third option of "While in use" would be better).
"While in use" is exactly what they used to do. It allowed the driver to see my location as long as I left the app open. Now the uber app is unreasonable. It demands permission to stalk me at any time, else I use a hobbled version of the app.
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#19I ranted about this last weekend. No app, positively no app, gets "always" access to my location info. I don't care what their "privacy policy" says.
I'm annoyed Apple even allows this. It shouldn't even be an option.
Clearly iOS needs more fine tuned permissions. I can share my location with a friend for an hour. I'd Uber wants 5 minutes worth then they should be granted 5 minutes worth. Not infinite and unlimited.
Uber used to work just fine with "while running" permission. They're removal of that is extremely user hostile. I deleted the app and will use Lyft instead. I suggest everyone do the same.
Waze also made a similar change. Waze also got deleted. We must not accept this behavior.
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#20Uber is really a scummy company. And given their track record with absuing user data, I don't trust them at all with this new expansive data collection effort. Let's review the company shall we?
The CEO, Travis Kalanick, has used God View to monitor people for entertainment.[0] The head of their NYC office also go into hot water over using God View inappropriately[1]. At other companies, these would be fireable offenses. No second chances. Deactivate the counts. Escort them to the door. Mail them their stuff. At Uber, it's totally cool brah.
There's the whole "you're not our employee, but we pay you, and tell you where to go, and how to act."
They explicitly target low income people to be their totally-not-employees, through direct mail, and their "urban" "Get your side hustle on!" commercials.
Their auto financing product is predatory.[2] It explicitly targets people bad credit to lease a car they can't pay for unless they're constantly totally-not-employed-with Uber. The interest rates are usury levels of 22.75% APR.
Then of course there's the whole, "Fuck the law!" aspect of the company.
[0] http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/10/03/god-view-...
[1] https://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/uber-is-investigating...
[2] http://www.marketplace.org/2015/05/13/tech/uber-drivers-stru...