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Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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Hetzner has this for quite a while now.

I am surprised to hear someone saying anything positive about Hetzner. My only experience with them was a nightmare with terrible support and very inconsistent network performance.

I've never heard anything bad about them

Been a Hetzner customer for years now

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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Oh wow, thanks! I hadn't noticed that yet :| So many caveats to this thing. Look like I'd need to pony up >1k/mo on top of 3k to get access to the service then...

AWS is not the place to be if you're on a budget

How often are people on a budget the target of serious ddos attacks?

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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I have a lot of questions/problems with this. Here are two. 1.) They mention in the compare tiers "Application traffic monitoring" for Advanced. However in the FAQ: "In addition, customers can also use AWS WAF to protect against Application layer attacks". WAF is only available through CloudFront, and CloudFront charges 600 dollars a month for a custom SSL certificate with dedicated IP. So do they have "Application t…

for $3k/month i wouldn't expect a competent human being to be on call 24/7, which is what you're asking for. this is one thing that does not enjoy economies of scale. competent people working under pressure at 3AM on a holiday are extremely expensive. would _ you _ do that job? and how much do you get paid?

Why? It isn't dedicated support. A single support rep could have hundreds of theoretical clients.

Amazon.com manages to have 24/7 chat support and they certainly aren't charging $3K/month. That's just the power of multi-tasking.

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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AWS is not the place to be if you're on a budget

How often are people on a budget the target of serious ddos attacks?

A better question would be, "How often are people on a budget the target of a budget DDOS attack?" I think we've long since entered the era where DDOS attacks don't have to be "serious" to be massive.

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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They did just re-organize that dropdown in AWS, it's actually much easier to search and find things. You can also pin commonly-used services to the top menu bar too.

I hate the new dropdown. The old one had brightly-coloured icons that were an easy visual search. The new one is a wall of text you have to parse.

Completely agree on this point! Also wish there was a way to remove Resource Groups from the top bar.

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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for $3k/month i wouldn't expect a competent human being to be on call 24/7, which is what you're asking for. this is one thing that does not enjoy economies of scale. competent people working under pressure at 3AM on a holiday are extremely expensive. would _ you _ do that job? and how much do you get paid?

Why? It isn't dedicated support. A single support rep could have hundreds of theoretical clients. Amazon.com manages to have 24/7 chat support and they certainly aren't charging $3K/month. That's just the power of multi-tasking.

sounds like you've stumbled onto a fantastic entrepreneurial business opportunity. i say you should go for it!

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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AWS is not the place to be if you're on a budget

How often are people on a budget the target of serious ddos attacks?

Pretty often, especially in the realm of journalism (Wikileaks et al) and especially in network-security journalism. (Imagine writing exposés about botnet-owners. Imagine what kind of DDoS results from that.)

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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AWS is not the place to be if you're on a budget

How often are people on a budget the target of serious ddos attacks?

A lot of game servers (eg Minecraft) get DDoSed by competitor servers or players as revenge

Re: AWS Shield – Managed DDoS Protection

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post #16

Hetzner has this for quite a while now.

I am surprised to hear someone saying anything positive about Hetzner. My only experience with them was a nightmare with terrible support and very inconsistent network performance.

They have incredibly cheap dedicated servers (something like 50 Euros for quad core, 64GB ram, 2TB disk/500gb ssd with traffic included!).

I had several servers from them over the years without issues and great performance.

Never been DDOSed though...

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