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Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

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Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

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hey that's incredibly clear! From your description I thought it'd be practically pointless - but actually you can see each sides strategy developing quite interestingly. I actually saw people play out of sequence - some buskers or homeless or whatever people - just used to playing so many games against each other they'd get through the openings quickly by each person making several moves. It seemed too fast for me to…

Thank you! I was inspired by something I read about the early history of chess: "In order to save time, and to prevent useless exchanges, it was agreed that the first player should make his (let us say) fifteen moves all at once, without, however, crossing the middle line of the board; after which the adversary was entitled to play up at once an equal number of counter moves... these preliminary maneuvers the Arabs c…

thanks! that's also really interesting. (though in what I saw, there wasn't "after which" the other player made their first few moves - instead they moved over each other, like two people talking over each other. I couldn't figure out how they kept track of the turn or that they made the correct number of moves each - it was all much too quick. I even suppose that it's possible they didn't keep strict track and one player may have made 1 more move than the other or that sort of thing. Really bizarre!)

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#73
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imho, ICC is the gold standard. You can get at least a simul with a master almost everyday. The GM commentary is incredible for live tournaments, and things like ICC's Game of the Week from GM Joel Benjamin are unmatched.

I'm not nearly good enough to play a master, and I use lichess to play Chess960 (Fischer Random). Can ICC do that? Edit : The ICC app does seem to have Chess960. However I couldn't tell where my offer went in free mode, and the UI was filled with stuff I couldn't use. Lichess's UX seems slicker. In particular: a) When you open the app you get a problem. Solve it and you get another, and another and another. b) You ca…

ICC, unfortunately, was built around a desktop CLI, BlitzIn, that really suffers from the transition to mobile. BlitzIn can do both of those things but I have no idea how you would accomplish them through the app.

I'll always remember BlitzIn fondly (it was the first CLI I used, before I even knew what that was) but ICC's glory days were the late 90s and early 00s.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#74
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Both of the suggestions "Champion has draw odds" and "tiebreaks before the match" means that one player can just go on the defence for the duration of the match. The only way to get both players to attack, that I've heard, is the classic "first to 6 wins" or some other number. In that version, no side ever wants to draw.

Unless you're 5-0 down, so you just aim to draw repeatedly until it's declared a stalemate.

A draw is half a point. So with first to 6.5, you win the match if you have one game win and 11 draws.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#75
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> Peter Svidler mentioned a very interesting suggestion that the players should play the tie-breaks before the match, which should produce more interesting games. This is the first such suggestion I've heard that I actually like.

Since 2003, MLB determines home field advantage in the World Series by the winner of the All–Star Game. Not same but similar.

Interestingly, in the new CBA which was agreed to last night, they have removed this.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#76
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I think I might have been the first to get that today. It said "played 0 times". Very humorous :)

Unreal! Honestly I thought it was over for white, what a brilliant finish!

Really? When did you think that? I didn't see any position I'd relish playing with Black needing a win. Let alone with Karjakin's time disadvantage.

It was a cute ending, but it seemed a very comfortable draw for white from well before.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#77
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Unless you're 5-0 down, so you just aim to draw repeatedly until it's declared a stalemate.

A draw is half a point. So with first to 6.5, you win the match if you have one game win and 11 draws.

What if you just have 13 draws? If you award any kind of points for draws, it seems like you're back to people aiming to draw.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#78
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It was a draw the moment White had only h-pawns, which happened earlier, because the remaining bishop was the wrong colour.

I'm aware of all that. I'm speaking about the oddity/uniqueness of forcing a stalemate via en passant.

I agree, even if it was deliberate. With a clear draw, but that board position, both of them played out the stalemate. Not saying they deliberately drew, but just, in that situation with a certain draw, why not make it a cute one. I like it when top players do that. Like Ernst letting Magnus play out his beautiful epaulette mate in '04.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

#79
post #69

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Both of the suggestions "Champion has draw odds" and "tiebreaks before the match" means that one player can just go on the defence for the duration of the match. The only way to get both players to attack, that I've heard, is the classic "first to 6 wins" or some other number. In that version, no side ever wants to draw.

Unless you're 5-0 down, so you just aim to draw repeatedly until it's declared a stalemate.

No, that's the point: The game continues until a player reaches 6 wins. If you're 5-0 down, you can either resign or play for 6 wins. Draws don't help you.

Re: Carlsen–Karjakin World Championship

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Unless you're 5-0 down, so you just aim to draw repeatedly until it's declared a stalemate.

A draw is half a point. So with first to 6.5, you win the match if you have one game win and 11 draws.

I'm talking about first to 6 wins. Like the 1984 Karpov vs. Kasparov: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=55015
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