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The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

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Re: The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

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Cable-cutting is the act of cutting cable TELEVISION, not just cable service outright. It surely can be done but not if you're addicted to watching all the same programming as cable has. A smart cable company will view themselves as an ISP who is also a TV service rather than a TV service who is also an ISP. I haven't had cable TV service for years. I generally abhorred most content on cable TV, even on the "cerebral…

Interesting, what are you using as a receiver ?

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#42

My bank account says otherwise. I have a $30/mo Internet bill and a $30/mo phone bill. Both get me unlimited Internet at good bandwidth, so I just watch a metric ton of YouTube, Twitch, etc. I've never had any other monthly telecom service.

How'd you manage those deals?

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Can't read the paywalled story but where I live there's really one option for internet: Comcast. So if I literally cut cable, I have nothing (I cut my phone landline years ago, and AT&T has no high-speed internet in my neighborhood anyway). What I do is I have the "basic" TV + internet package, as that's actually cheaper bundled than getting internet by itself. I have no ESPN, HBO, etc. I do miss some sports but I ca…

> What I do is I have the "basic" TV + internet package, as that's actually cheaper bundled than getting internet by itself. I've heard this before, and on the surface seems like it's probably skewing a lot of the numbers (making the number of cable TV subscribers artificially higher than it otherwise would be). At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasi…

I would pay 0$ more for TV+Internet vs just Internet. For the last two years, despite having a TV and Comcast sending me a (huge & ugly) set-top box that would give me basic TV channels, I just cannot be bothered to connect it. The only thing connected to my TV is a Chromecast, which I use a lot. I'm sure Comcast still counts me as a cable TV user.

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> What I do is I have the "basic" TV + internet package, as that's actually cheaper bundled than getting internet by itself. I've heard this before, and on the surface seems like it's probably skewing a lot of the numbers (making the number of cable TV subscribers artificially higher than it otherwise would be). At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasi…

> At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasionally. Despite the bundle being cheaper, you still are by all metrics a legit cable TV subscriber. I used to have the basic internet + TV package because it was $10 cheaper than the standalone internet option, and I literally never plugged in the TV equipment.

Same here. When I moved and returned three sealed boxes of equipment, the customer service agent couldn't understand how I watched TV without hooking up a TV (didn't occur to them that maybe I didn't).

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> What I do is I have the "basic" TV + internet package, as that's actually cheaper bundled than getting internet by itself. I've heard this before, and on the surface seems like it's probably skewing a lot of the numbers (making the number of cable TV subscribers artificially higher than it otherwise would be). At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasi…

> At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasionally. Despite the bundle being cheaper, you still are by all metrics a legit cable TV subscriber. I used to have the basic internet + TV package because it was $10 cheaper than the standalone internet option, and I literally never plugged in the TV equipment.

I had the equipment, but never plugged it in. When I returned the equipment 6 months later, the Comcast rep refunded the entire price of the tv service, without even being asked. Normal I'd have nothing positive to say about their customer service, but that was quite nice.

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One thing I'm noticing with cable-cutting is that the market is getting more fragmented. Instead of just getting Netflix and watching free Hulu with ads, now you have to get Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO Now, pay for Hulu, buy the Starz app, pay for MLB, etc. in order to compose all the content you want. It's equivalent to buying cable packages where you spend money on a bundle engineered to have only 20% of what you wa…

I don't know. Netflix appears to have added a lot of licensed content over the last year. $10/month for Netflix vs $65/month for basic Fios TV. I could add HBO Now for $15/month and still be money ahead.

Netflix removes as much or more than it adds.

Re: The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

#47

Just wait until today's teens grow up. Most of them have never gotten in the linear TV habit, they prefer to watch Youtube and don't have the attention span to sit through a commercial break. 10 years from now, cable TV is d00med.

I'd say the golden age of TV consumption contributed to shortened attention spans by conditioning us to focus for ~10minutes and get interrupted by 5 minutes of random nonsense.

Commercials were never that bad back in the day.

Re: The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

#48

Cable-cutting is the act of cutting cable TELEVISION, not just cable service outright. It surely can be done but not if you're addicted to watching all the same programming as cable has. A smart cable company will view themselves as an ISP who is also a TV service rather than a TV service who is also an ISP. I haven't had cable TV service for years. I generally abhorred most content on cable TV, even on the "cerebral…

How does Ku band hold up in rain/snow?

Re: The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

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> What I do is I have the "basic" TV + internet package, as that's actually cheaper bundled than getting internet by itself. I've heard this before, and on the surface seems like it's probably skewing a lot of the numbers (making the number of cable TV subscribers artificially higher than it otherwise would be). At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasi…

> At the same time, you, like many others, do have it hooked up to your TV, and you watch it at least occasionally. Despite the bundle being cheaper, you still are by all metrics a legit cable TV subscriber. I used to have the basic internet + TV package because it was $10 cheaper than the standalone internet option, and I literally never plugged in the TV equipment.

The reason cable is bundled as a discount is twofold: (1) you can get upsold later on a bigger and better package ("only $9.99 more!"), and (2) the bundle is a temporary/promotional rate -- after a fixed amount of time, long after you've forgotten about the fine print, your cable bill jumps up.

Source: worked a summer during college for a cable company, trying to appease thousands of pissed off customers.

Re: The Cable-Cutting Dream Is Kind of a Myth

#50
I wonder about the statistics on this.

My only choice for internet in my houses (residence and holiday house) is Comcast. For both, it's cheaper to subscribe to an internet+TV deal than internet alone. I just taped the cablecard to my modem for when I cancel service. ut I'm sure I count as a subscriber.

Interestingly the vacation house has been selected as a Nielsen home. But since there's no TV the rep has told me they won't count me. Every couple of months though I get a request to have my TV usage tracked. I'm sure ignoring non-TV watchers helps them give encouraging stats to their customers by reducing the denominator!

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