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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Could you link the offer? I couldn’t find any in their VPS or Dedicated offers better than the 16$ VPS (which I then used for the 40$ and 80$ tier, too)

https://www.ovh.com/us/cloud/instances/prices.xml

I edited the gist, but sadly can’t edit the post anymore. Thanks, btw. I completely missed those.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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BuyVM offer non-shared cores at a cheaper rate than either Linode or DO. https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices (No affiliation, happy customer with minimal downtime for ~5 years now.)

Took a look, their terms of service are awful. Here's a few: 3,1,2 - P.O. Boxes and non-residential or mail forwarding addresses are not accepted. 3,3,1 - Clients may not open multiple personal accounts under any circumstance. 3,3,2 - Clients may not give other persons access to their accounts.

Looks like pretty standard anti-fraud stuff.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Let me get this straight, right now AWS is billing me $270/mo for 3TB of bandwidth on my autoscaling web servers. With LightSail, I can get that same bandwidth, plus storage and instances for $15/mo? In total, I'm spending about $15,000/yr on AWS, and someone spending $5/mo gets their bandwidth 18x cheaper than me? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and I should be the one with the discount? I get enough headaches…

They want to destroy DigitalOcean, so they have to match their pricing. Additional traffic is also $0,09 / GB with Lightsail.

And that's incredibly expensive, considering many other cloud providers around the level of DigitalOcean (which I believe doesn't charge for using too much bandwidth atm) charge a lot less. For example, Linode charges $0.02/GB after the allocated bandwidth

And specifically for Linode, since all the servers draw from the same pool of resources, you can instead create a ton of $10 servers and grab bandwidth for $0.005/GB, which Linode is perfectly fine with (note that bandwidth is pro-rated, so you'd need to create those servers in the beginning of the month to take full advantage of it).

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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You're telling me that your 150GB HDD beats a 20GB SSD? Even though they're both going to sit at 10GB free for years.

He won't reply. He's currently furiously working on integrating his wordpress plugins. Seriously though, Amazon is going after a totally different market than the budget providers.

He is free to use his server how he sees fit. And are you really sure that Amazon is going after a very different market with their 5$/mo. offer than a low-cost VPS provider?

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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A compelling product. The dashboard looks great. They even replaced the confusing term "user data" with "launch script", but they fall back into it later. SSH in-browser is great too and can be bookmarked/opened in a fullscreen tab. Uploading (instead of pasting) your SSH pubkey is a bit annoying. The docs appear to say you can add these to a VPC but I don't see how to do it. They don't say the SSD storage is local,…

Re: VPC peering, the blog gets into more detail. I tried it out, worked great. Simple egress. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-lightsail-the-power-...

Anyone know what their web terminal is based on? I've been on networks that are so locked down that it'd be really useful... although maybe not 5USD/month useful.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Me too. I want protection against my own stupidity, as well as sheer ignorance of the charges. This put me off AWS for years, and I was deeply shocked there was no one-click 'suspend at x$'. For a company that supposedly puts the customer first, this is appalling.

It's difficult to come up with a good model for how a billing ceiling would work in software as a service. A good start would be to fully specify what behavior you desire when an account hits its billing limit. Are you expecting everything to keep working like normal while the cloud provider pays the bill for those resources, or are you expecting the provider to fully shut everything down in a way that prevents the a…

It seems like a hard technical problem to shut down gracefully. But it's an easy product problem. Just suspend the account. AWS must do this already for some cases.

No one running a real business on AWS wants a hard ceiling instead of billing alerts and service by service throttling. Which Amazon has.

So, this is just the nuclear option for people's pet projects. It's not a bad thing to have but I wouldn't expect it to operate any differently than what would happen if you broke the TOS and they suspended your account.

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Does anybody care about the answer to your question? In all likelihood, the answer is: because that information is even more work to collect. Your post reminds me of the burden of proof fallacy, in which you create work for other people by asking questions you could easily answer yourself. If you or anybody posts the comparison you requested, it will surely be upvoted.

I did, over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13074325

Thanks for posting a note in this thread - I would have missed it otherwise!

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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Me too. I want protection against my own stupidity, as well as sheer ignorance of the charges. This put me off AWS for years, and I was deeply shocked there was no one-click 'suspend at x$'. For a company that supposedly puts the customer first, this is appalling.

If you think that solving this problem in a consumer-friendly way is beyond the wit of Amazon then I think you are wrong.

Completely. I will say amazon is usually very good about refunding money if you made a mistake or got hacked so in that sense their customer service is pretty good.

One time we had literally 1 million cloudwatch metrics get created because we were monitoring mongodb databases and a CPAN test was creating test DBs and not deleting them and we were not ignoring dbs created with names like test_* when creating the metrics.

Another time an outside developer committed a root credential on a public repo in github to a (basically) unused amazon account.

Both times they refunded the costs. Not sure if that was because we were paying tens of thousands a month though to get this service though!

Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS

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This is a non-starter without IPv6. I know some of you will be tempted to jump ship from DO and Vultr, but please remember that by doing so you will continue enabling Amazon to hold back progress. While ignoring AWS is not really an option, as it offers some very unique features that are quite useful, this thing does not. DO is not great in this regard as their butcher their allocations, but Vultr gives each VPS a pr…

> enabling Amazon to hold back progress

what do you mean?

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