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How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by dekhn »

ap22213 wrote: post #8
mvitorino wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can try "Cloud Storage Transfer": `Transfer data to your Cloud Storage buckets from Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3), HTTP/HTTPS servers or other buckets. You can schedule once-off or daily transfers, and you can filter files based on name prefix and when they were changed.` https://cloud.google.com/storage/transfer/

It would be nice if they managed the transfer themselves via AWS Snowball. Sure, they would have upfront costs, but based on what I spend on AWS monthly, it's probably worth it to them.

Why would you want to move data between AWS and GCP using a hard drive? The networks between the two cloud providers are immense.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by cobookman »

ap22213 wrote: post #5

I want to try out Google, but they need to make it easier to try it out. I have petabytes of data in S3 that I would need to move first (at least some of it).

Email me at bookman@google.com and I'll be sure to start internal conversations around what we can do to help you out.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by justicezyx »

fumar wrote: post #3
honkhonkpants wrote: post #2

I disagree with the central thesis of this article that Google is a product company rather than a platform company. I think that's wrong because throughout its history Google has asked itself "what if we had this?" first, and built the products around that later. Essentially the company believes that products will naturally emerge if you hire tens of thousands of engineers and deploy an unholy number of computers. I…

Is company's business model based on what they use to create their Widgets or what Widgets they sell (and how)? I agree its hard to paint Google solely as a products company, but its also more than the sum of dirt-cheap computing.

Dirt cheap computing is like the life line of Google. W/o that, nothing Google did can sustain at all.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by cobookman »

dekhn wrote: post #11
ap22213 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if they managed the transfer themselves via AWS Snowball. Sure, they would have upfront costs, but based on what I spend on AWS monthly, it's probably worth it to them.

Why would you want to move data between AWS and GCP using a hard drive? The networks between the two cloud providers are immense.

It'd avoid expensive egress costs.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by darawk »

darksaints wrote: post #7

> Amazon’s AWS strategy sprang from the same approach that made the company successful in the first place I'd argue that Amazon isn't a successful company, they are a popular company with a few large successes surrounded by decaying and decrepit failures that won't die. But then again I'm biased. As far as Amazon's AWS strategy, I can't comment (I worked in the retail business side). But I can comment on a relatively…

> I'd argue that Amazon isn't a successful company, they are a popular company with a few large successes surrounded by decaying and decrepit failures that won't die. But then again I'm biased.

Couldn't you say the same thing about Google, or Microsoft? I think the point of 'success' is that your big wins outweigh your failures as determined by your revenue. Is it not?

Creating the largest retailer in the world and the largest cloud services platform in the world seem like two pretty big wins. Either one on its own would be an extremely successful company IMO.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by fumar »

justicezyx wrote: post #13
fumar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is company's business model based on what they use to create their Widgets or what Widgets they sell (and how)? I agree its hard to paint Google solely as a products company, but its also more than the sum of dirt-cheap computing.

Dirt cheap computing is like the life line of Google. W/o that, nothing Google did can sustain at all.

Just curious on your thoughts, are not most modern companies (startups) dependent on cheap computing (+ smart folks)?

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by ranman »

dekhn wrote: post #11
ap22213 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if they managed the transfer themselves via AWS Snowball. Sure, they would have upfront costs, but based on what I spend on AWS monthly, it's probably worth it to them.

Why would you want to move data between AWS and GCP using a hard drive? The networks between the two cloud providers are immense.

At some point (many 1000s of terrabytes) it is faster and cheaper to ship the data on physical devices than it is to send it over the network.

(I work for AWS)

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by aikah »

tldr; competition is good.

Google Cloud UI is vastly superior to AWS. It's clear to me AWS didn't put a lot of effort into their interface, Google console is nice too in order to quickly experiment with the platform. On the other hand, it seems to me that AWS is still cheaper than GCloud right now.

Re: How Google Is Challenging AWS

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Post by mvitorino »

dekhn wrote: post #11
ap22213 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if they managed the transfer themselves via AWS Snowball. Sure, they would have upfront costs, but based on what I spend on AWS monthly, it's probably worth it to them.

Why would you want to move data between AWS and GCP using a hard drive? The networks between the two cloud providers are immense.

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
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