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Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

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Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

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post #6

Did I read that correctly? This will be delivered as a snap package?

As I read this again I'm quite confused what this announcement means. The mention of snap package makes it seems like "apt-get install docker..." would be a separate binary. A wild guess would be that 99% of Ubuntu users will never buy CS Docker Engine so will that 99% of users be running the debian/ubuntu packaged docker.io binary that exists today?

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#12
post #9

thought Canonical is doing its own "docker", e.g. SNAP, lxd etc that are not totally identical but very similar to docker, what's going on here.

There's more than one type of container. Docker, and docker flavors (runc, rkt, etc). LXD is a machine container, it's the same technology that Docker was first built off of, but it's a hypervisor for really dense machines that are as light as process containers.

Snaps is a package format that gives you a cross (linux) platform distribution, atomic updates, security, and isolation. It's not really like docker as it's not a density story, there's no unique TCP/IP stack, etc.

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#13
post #11
post #6

Did I read that correctly? This will be delivered as a snap package?

As I read this again I'm quite confused what this announcement means. The mention of snap package makes it seems like "apt-get install docker..." would be a separate binary. A wild guess would be that 99% of Ubuntu users will never buy CS Docker Engine so will that 99% of users be running the debian/ubuntu packaged docker.io binary that exists today?

I think Docker through snap is still free, they'll just sell support.

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#14
I really want to like docker for end user applications. However, until the problem of sanely sharing users into the container is solved, it is something that merely works well right up to the point you try to do something useful.

I suppose this can be sidestepped by allowing root in all of your containers for the applications. I am curious if that actually provides security benefits, though.

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#15
post #8

Can OP or an admin de-abbreviate "CS" to "Commercially-Supported"?

First time I've ever seen this abbreviation. I only clicked because I wanted to find out what it meant. I probably wouldn't have clicked if I had known it meant "Commercially-Supported".

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#16
post #2

This makes me feel good about going with CentOS for Docker. Red Hat has a custom, stable Docker version which is rock-solid (albeit somewhat old, 1.10).

Technically runc and the Kernel are setting up/providing your containers. Docker Engine is a platform for managing containers/images.

docker-engine is the name of the package.

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#17
post #9

thought Canonical is doing its own "docker", e.g. SNAP, lxd etc that are not totally identical but very similar to docker, what's going on here.

There's more than one type of container. Docker, and docker flavors (runc, rkt, etc). LXD is a machine container, it's the same technology that Docker was first built off of, but it's a hypervisor for really dense machines that are as light as process containers. Snaps is a package format that gives you a cross (linux) platform distribution, atomic updates, security, and isolation. It's not really like docker as it's…

like xen? I sat on a 10 minute presentation during openstack meetup, Ubuntu dude presented LXD...then I asked myself...xen does all this...then again choice is always welcomed

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#18
post #2

This makes me feel good about going with CentOS for Docker. Red Hat has a custom, stable Docker version which is rock-solid (albeit somewhat old, 1.10).

Center for Internet Security Docker Benchmark, rule 1.5: Keep Docker up to date [1]

[1] https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/tools2/docker/CIS_Docker_1...

Re: Docker and Canonical Partner on Commercially-Supported Docker Engine for Ubuntu

#20
post #14

I really want to like docker for end user applications. However, until the problem of sanely sharing users into the container is solved, it is something that merely works well right up to the point you try to do something useful. I suppose this can be sidestepped by allowing root in all of your containers for the applications. I am curious if that actually provides security benefits, though.

What do you mean by sanely sharing users in the container?
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