Gizmodo? Isn't that the revenge porn outfit that was sued into bankruptcy a while back?
Reddit Is Tearing Itself Apart
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#112>these two women are "as fat as whales" and furthermore that they deserve to be derided based on physical appearance because of their expressed political opinions. Comedic body shapes paired with comedic political views and philosophies. What's wrong with it? They tried cheap virtue signaling and lost the bet. Boo hoo my sympathies. To deride the visual and linguistic imagination of cognitive entities as "hate speech…
The question at the crux of it, and this is where it gets complicated, is would the same joke be made if they were men? Or a bit simpler of a question would be: were there overweight male celebrities that denounced Trump and claimed they would move to Canada should he win, and have any jokes been made at their expense related to their weight? If the answer to either question is "no", then this post qualifies as hate…
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
the entire internet is composed of private entities. following that logic there is practically no free speech on the internet.
As someone who champions a re-decentralization of the Internet and remembers the era of peer to peer communications, I am saddened by the assumed centralization behind your statement.
A decentralized internet still needs its pipes and some people will want to colo servers and not operate server farms from home. That means you still need to buy services from private entities.
universal service obligations are not enshrined everywhere.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think reasonable people can agree that technology has paved the way for few exceptions which require special protections to free speech; i.e. Google should not be permitted by law to filter and censor search results for speech, no matter how disagreeable it is to you or the Google CEOs. Edit: In other words, no matter whether I like or dislike the 4chan community, an entire community of various forums such as that…
> I think reasonable people can agree that technology has paved the way for few exceptions which require special protections to free speech Do you think it should have been unlawful for Reddit to ban Coontown? What would you think to be an appropriate punishment for this proposed crime? A fine? Jail time?
Of course not. Everybody relies on Google (or at least, 1 of Google, bing or yahoo) and an argument can be made that they should be regulate because if they do not operate in good faith that can have severe consequences (i.e. effectively eliminating dissenting opinion). Private companies being regulated in the best interest of the public good is nothing new, Sinclairs The Jungle was written in 1906, technology changes but human nature has not and we should adapt regulation to new technology if we're interested in the public's welfare and future.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
So we are talking about free speech then? It sounds like you have already forgotten that the comment I replied to said "no one is talking about free speech."
In that specific comment no. It was about reddit's core beliefs. The fact that the word free speech was used in the sentence doesn't make that a central point of that conversation. In the general case also no because a private platform not promoting someones speech isn't a free speech issue.
Umm, you're very clearly and plainly talking about censoring speech, and many people in the topic thread are talking about free speech. And you are responding by insulting people?
Like I said I can see you argued this same argument with people in the other thread and then quickly conceded it.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that specific comment no. It was about reddit's core beliefs. The fact that the word free speech was used in the sentence doesn't make that a central point of that conversation. In the general case also no because a private platform not promoting someones speech isn't a free speech issue.
Umm, you're very clearly and plainly talking about censoring speech, and many people in the topic thread are talking about free speech. And you are responding by insulting people? Like I said I can see you argued this same argument with people in the other thread and then quickly conceded it.
I haven't conceded anything. I have maintained the whole time that it isn't a free speech issue because it is a private platform. I've also not responded by insulting people. I honestly have no clue which discussion you're reading but it's not one I'm participating in by your description of it.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the article is, quite frankly, bullsh*t.
Posting a bowdlerized criticism (when swearing is perfectly OK on HN) is not very impressive compared to explaining what you think is wrong with it.
Isn't posting a bowdlerized word when you desire to also perfectly OK on HN?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arrant falsehood does tend to gravel people, I suppose. I'm not sure what anyone expects to gain by doubling down on the goodthink echo chamber that's just lost them an election. Emotional comfort, perhaps? I'm not without sympathy for the need - but that's a private matter. Governance in the US is public, and refusing to engage in the process merely cedes the field. Demonizing one's political opponents not only cede…
"One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem"[1] The rise of neonazism in the US is real. To claim otherwise, to imply that it is an "arrant falsehood," is to be purposefully ignorant. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE
There is no rise of neo-nazism in the US. Real neo-nazi groups are run by the feds, if you don't know this already you are purposefully ignorant. The so-called Alt-Right and their memes are just a reaction to decades of liberal browbeating and name-calling (xenophobe... etc).
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#119This all amounts to a lack of imagination on the part of Reddit's management. -- If the issue is doxxing, which was occurring to some degree in sites with cross-membership with r/the_donald, then enhanced auto moderation is needed. The tools are out there. -- If the issue is so-called "hate speech" then give users the ability to filter content they find distasteful. -- If the issue is click-bait to offensive or illeg…
Reddit isn't a technology company, they're a media company. They were owned by one of the largest media companies, Conde Nast, for a while. Their goal isn't to solve social network problems, their goal is to increase their reach as much as possible. Reddit is the center of attention right now, their reach is huge, why would they change anything and risk losing that?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
"One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem"[1] The rise of neonazism in the US is real. To claim otherwise, to imply that it is an "arrant falsehood," is to be purposefully ignorant. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE
Spencer was being deliberately provocative. He knows the media will only play a handful of sound bites to spin their tales, so he gave it to them on a platter to achieve maximum coverage. And it worked. He is now the Great Satan, which apparently means lots of long interviews with major television and radio stations. For clarity, that quote is referring to journalists and the media. Not Jews, as some have been heavil…
>For clarity, that quote is referring to journalists and the media. Not Jews, as some have been heavily implying.
This absolutely false. The word "zombie" is what people go to when they think of a mindless being. The word "golem" is what a nazi would say as a dogwhistle to let people know he's down with hating (((Jews))).
We Jews said we would never forget, and we haven't.