I'm no Trump supporter but this piece is brutal in its implicit bias. Essentially, "free speech should not be enjoyed by those that hold the wrong opinion!"
Reddit, a private website, is under no obligation to provide a safe space for free speech.
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#12"Its members spread coded hate speech" yeah had to stop nice bias
you're right, its not even coded hate speech.
This is a good way to acrue massive, immediate backlash on HN. Calling alt-righters out for being neonazis and reminding people that hate speech isn't free speech is apparently over the line for a subset of users here.
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#13I'm no Trump supporter but this piece is brutal in its implicit bias. Essentially, "free speech should not be enjoyed by those that hold the wrong opinion!"
That's not at all how this is going down. There are rules about mobbing other subs with garbage. No one would care If they kept to their own sub.
Every sub is allowed to moderate itself how it chooses.
Plus, there wasn't a similar outcry when Correct The Record, swamped the site with its paid advocacy before the election.
Either you believe in free speech, that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and that good ideas will prevail in the end -- or you don't.
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#14As someone who reads reddit fairly frequently, this doesn't reflect my experience on the site. In reality there is no unified reddit. I've taken a gander at /r/The_Donald a couple of times (mostly out of morbid curiosity) but other than those few times I've experienced very little impact of whatever it is they are doing. I read some sports subredits. I read some culture subredits. I read some of the bigger basic ente…
I don't see this on my own view of the site. But I click /r/all every so often just to get some variety and that's where you see this in effect. It seems an r/The_Donald post has been in one of the top two spots for the last few months with others in the queue.
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#15I'm no Trump supporter but this piece is brutal in its implicit bias. Essentially, "free speech should not be enjoyed by those that hold the wrong opinion!"
Reddit, a private website, is under no obligation to provide a safe space for free speech.
the entire internet is composed of private entities. following that logic there is practically no free speech on the internet.
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#16I'm no Trump supporter but this piece is brutal in its implicit bias. Essentially, "free speech should not be enjoyed by those that hold the wrong opinion!"
Reddit, a private website, is under no obligation to provide a safe space for free speech.
Of course. But then advertise yourself as such, not as a bastion of free speech and authentic conversations. To me that is admitting your side of the argument is weak and fearful.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
you're right, its not even coded hate speech.
I took a look at their sub. I couldn't find any hate speech (though I ignored heavily downvoted comments). I'm also suspicious of "coded hate speech" since that concept grants license to attach racist connotations to just about any sentence. Is there a post on r/The_Donald that stands out to you as being hate speech?
It's typically the commenters. /r/The_Donald has rules which are supposed to stop hate speech (and typically they delete posts which are). However, with remarkable consistency, if you find someone spouting bigotry and hatred in another subreddit, they are almost always regular /r/The_Donald posters.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reddit, a private website, is under no obligation to provide a safe space for free speech.
the entire internet is composed of private entities. following that logic there is practically no free speech on the internet.
Another possible comparison: cities are composed of mostly private entities. The free speech limitations in private businesses are comparable to those on line. How does that play out? Is the comparison faulty? Honest question. I'd like to figure out a more real-world comparison that matches our intuitions.
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#20As someone who reads reddit fairly frequently, this doesn't reflect my experience on the site. In reality there is no unified reddit. I've taken a gander at /r/The_Donald a couple of times (mostly out of morbid curiosity) but other than those few times I've experienced very little impact of whatever it is they are doing. I read some sports subredits. I read some culture subredits. I read some of the bigger basic ente…
pretty much the same... but as will all echo chambers, you'll hear what you're listing to.
If people are on ranty subreddits they will hear ranty posts.
I'm happy with reddit. Its a pleasant diversion that I get to tune to my liking.