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Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by thatcat »

imglorp wrote: post #28
st3v3r wrote: post #27

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Yet the advert is what's paying for the video and the bandwidth.

I wonder if YT will begin inserting ads directly into the video file server side. If you download the file to watch elsewhere, you get the whole package. Viewers can skip the ads manually, or wait for someone to write a program to detect scene changes and hope to skip the ads automatically. Then we're back to the TIVO model.

I doubt they will do this because they serve custom ads to each user, and to split and merge video files is considerably less efficient than just loading different files.

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by Something1234 »

thatcat wrote: post #41
imglorp wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if YT will begin inserting ads directly into the video file server side. If you download the file to watch elsewhere, you get the whole package. Viewers can skip the ads manually, or wait for someone to write a program to detect scene changes and hope to skip the ads automatically. Then we're back to the TIVO model.

I doubt they will do this because they serve custom ads to each user, and to split and merge video files is considerably less efficient than just loading different files.

Can't some video formats be concatenated? Something like this pipeline for serving the ad:

    cat $(select_ad_file $user) $video_file

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by tra3 »

tomcam wrote: post #39
tra3 wrote: post #37

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Hmm.. I must be doing something wrong then. Logged in on my Chrome on Mac, watched a video, paused it. Closed tab, reloaded tab. The video plays from the beginning. Opened the same video on my iPhone, official youtube app. Plays from the beginning as well. I guess I need to investigate this further. I didn't realize official google apps support this functionality because it's never worked for me. Thanks for mentionin…

Are you logged in to a Google/YouTube account?

I sure am. In fact, I just logged in from a completely clean browser (Safari, that I dont use on this machine, so no adblock or third party scripts). When looking at a thumbnail of a previously viewed video I see the "progress bar" that indicates where I left off, but clicking on it, doesn't resume the video. It starts it from the beginning.

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by tra3 »

orizens wrote: post #38
tra3 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm.. I must be doing something wrong then. Logged in on my Chrome on Mac, watched a video, paused it. Closed tab, reloaded tab. The video plays from the beginning. Opened the same video on my iPhone, official youtube app. Plays from the beginning as well. I guess I need to investigate this further. I didn't realize official google apps support this functionality because it's never worked for me. Thanks for mentionin…

hi @tra3 currently, Echoes doesn't support playing a video from where it was recently paused. if more users request it - i'll add it.

That would be fantastic. Youtube API provides this information so it's definitely possible.

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by orizens »

jameskegel wrote: post #20
orizens wrote: post #17

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G+ is Google Account. I'll change the sign-in button to display "Google Sign-in" so it won't confuse. thanks for the feedback.

I like the way you're responding and quickly putting action items into the pipeline.

Thanks

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by CaptSpify »

SeanDav wrote: post #21
ShinyCyril wrote: post #11

I will have to check this out when I get the chance. I was deeply saddened when YouTube killed their "Feather beta" feature which presented a super-minimal version of the site with the intention of reducing load times on slower internet connections.

I wouldn't have thought a minimal interface is required for YouTube. If your internet connection is too slow to handle a more detailed interface, how on earth is it going to cope with doing something like streaming video and sound?

Speaking for myself: It's not the bandwidth, it's the slow, laggy, intrusive interface that causes me problems. I can play videos just fine, but videos and a mountain of bad JS can make any of my computers crawl. Additionally, it just looks terrible. I'm here to watch a video, not look at videos that you incorrectly seem to think I'd be interested in.

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by thatcat »

Something1234 wrote: post #42
thatcat wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they will do this because they serve custom ads to each user, and to split and merge video files is considerably less efficient than just loading different files.

Can't some video formats be concatenated? Something like this pipeline for serving the ad: cat $(select_ad_file $user) $video_file

I know ffmpeg can do that, i've never tried just using cat.

An additional reason for not serving ads in the video file is that their ad clients probably want to know if someone watched it or not. By loading ad as a file associated with the ad client it's easy to verify that someone watched the ad and didn't just click out after 1s, etc.

Re: Show HN: Simple Minimal YouTube Alternative Player (no ads...with powers)

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Post by [deleted] »

tra3 wrote: post #37
Klathmon wrote: post #34

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Use the website or first-party clients, it does that if you are logged in. (not trying to be snarky, if you tend to use 3rd party clients you might not know)

Hmm.. I must be doing something wrong then. Logged in on my Chrome on Mac, watched a video, paused it. Closed tab, reloaded tab. The video plays from the beginning. Opened the same video on my iPhone, official youtube app. Plays from the beginning as well. I guess I need to investigate this further. I didn't realize official google apps support this functionality because it's never worked for me. Thanks for mentionin…

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