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Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by comex »

spacehacker wrote: post #90
joshklein wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also worried. At first, I rationalized weakness on the Mac front as a side-effect of a strategic prioritization of the mobile & cloud ecosystem. But then I got the new iPhone, and I've been surprised by my emotional reaction to it feeling buggy. It's all relatively minor in isolation; voicemail consistently fails to load messages multiple times before it succeeds, voicemail occasionally crashes, apps get stuck ha…

There certainly is regression at all corners: 1. Try finding a close-up of the keyboard of the function key model on the MacBook Pro website. It seems it is just not there or I'm failing to find it. Previously Apple used to have a design section where you could see the products from all angles. http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ 2. The online shop is just horrible. Even finding the store takes a while and the icons lo…

The Mighty Mouse charge port is indeed a WTF, but what's wrong with the Apple Pencil? The charging setup looks ugly, but it allows the Pencil to be charged on the go without needing an extra cable that people would lose or leave behind. And it's fast enough (15 seconds of charging for 30 minutes of usage) that the awkwardness hardly matters.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by jaxondu »

dogma1138 wrote: post #4

The amount of hardware issues with the new MBP are kinda staggering.... USB-C issues, GPU issues, image corruption, now this.

I suspect they hit similar issues with the delayed AirPods, easy for software to blow the speaker off. Maybe Tim Cook finally took a look at these issues with the new MacBook Pro before its launch and decided to kill its car project. Joke aside, I think 2017 will be tough year for Apple, as it is likely we will see a Made In USA iPhone, which will either eat into its profit margin or many will finally realise iPhone is way overpriced. 2017 will likely hit recession for US and globally, judging from history which happens the year when US political power shift from Republican to Democrat or vice versa. This will made no-buy for many for the 10th anniversary new iPhone 8.

Worst off, Apple is likely to create a third iPhone model which is highest end, premium and meant to milk more cash. Apple still think all its fanboy can tolerate its strategy of high profit from RAM add ons. It is likely due to political thingy the next 4 years will make Apple hard sell to convince users that iCloud is safe.

TouchBar and Retina ID is making the MacBook Pro hardware more complex. But how long will finger print tech last before the next tech take over? They are making something that is not applicable for other Mac models such as iMac (so you build a TouchID panel on the side of the screen?), Mac Pro and Mac mini. I believe Apple is retiring Mac Pro and Mac mini next, but will need to keep iMac due to sale volume. Someone please tell me how feasible it is to implement Touch ID on external keyboard? This whole thing does not look like holistic design to me, something like how you need to turn back the Apple MagicMouse in order to charge.

Which top tier computer manufacturer other than Apple is selling 3 year old computer hardware? I hope Apple will never use the word 'magic' in their ads anymore. I hope Apple has the courage to adopt USB-C for its iPad and iPhone. I hope Google will lower Pixel by $200 dollars. I hope Google will develop its own Linux notebook for its own employees and then the rest of the world. I hope Microsoft will develop a version of Windows on top of Linux core and file systems. Or the Surface group just buy Canonical. I hope Facebook will have an App Store for us to run React Native app or something like WeChat mini app over the web.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by nicky0 »

spacehacker wrote: post #90
joshklein wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also worried. At first, I rationalized weakness on the Mac front as a side-effect of a strategic prioritization of the mobile & cloud ecosystem. But then I got the new iPhone, and I've been surprised by my emotional reaction to it feeling buggy. It's all relatively minor in isolation; voicemail consistently fails to load messages multiple times before it succeeds, voicemail occasionally crashes, apps get stuck ha…

There certainly is regression at all corners: 1. Try finding a close-up of the keyboard of the function key model on the MacBook Pro website. It seems it is just not there or I'm failing to find it. Previously Apple used to have a design section where you could see the products from all angles. http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ 2. The online shop is just horrible. Even finding the store takes a while and the icons lo…

Just wondering, have you been keeping these in a list waiting for this opportunity, or did all that just come out of your head?

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by Watabou »

comex wrote: post #121
spacehacker wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There certainly is regression at all corners: 1. Try finding a close-up of the keyboard of the function key model on the MacBook Pro website. It seems it is just not there or I'm failing to find it. Previously Apple used to have a design section where you could see the products from all angles. http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ 2. The online shop is just horrible. Even finding the store takes a while and the icons lo…

The Mighty Mouse charge port is indeed a WTF, but what's wrong with the Apple Pencil? The charging setup looks ugly, but it allows the Pencil to be charged on the go without needing an extra cable that people would lose or leave behind. And it's fast enough (15 seconds of charging for 30 minutes of usage) that the awkwardness hardly matters.

The Mighty Mouse is the same. You get 9 hours of use from 2 minutes of charge time, and macOS warns you ahead of time, enough time for you to go and get a cup of coffee and by the time you're done, you'll probably end up with a full day's worth of charge. Or on the day that macOS warns you, just leave it to charge overnight. You get over a month of charge (I get close to 2), of usage.

The charging port on the back of the mouse is done to stop people from using it with it plugged in, which ruins the overall design, and since most people are lazy, they'll leave it plugged in all the time. Apple designs its products by thinking of an ideal use case first. Then they will try their hardest to make people use it in that ideal scenario.

I don't quite see the WTF here. I understand Apple's design decision and think it's actually quite clever, despite what it looks like at first glance.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by mikestew »

_cbsz wrote: post #104
mikestew wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or is it a particular feature of iMessage that WhatsApp is missing? The feature called "Built into the ROM of every iPhone".

It's not built into the ROM. iMessage got a huge update with iOS 10. If it was built into the ROM, that wouldn't be possible, because the old version would be, well, read-only.

Thanks, Captain Pedantic. Pretty sure folks get the idea despite the egregious inaccuracies in what I wrote. (And, as an aside, I knew that when I wrote it.)

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by ardaozkal »

mikeash wrote: post #56
amyjess wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been quite a few, actually, especially during the '90s. Low End Mac has a nice list: http://lowendmac.com/2007/the-10-worst-macs-ever/ The first item on the list contains this gem: > Anyhow, Apple put a 32-bit CPU on a 16-bit bus and created a monstrosity that worked okay as long as you didn’t use the modem or a network connection. And the PowerBook 5300 was on the honorable mentions list. I remember that…

Yeah, there were some pretty bad ones in 90s. If they were not as contentious, it's only because people's expectations for Apple were far lower back then. Consider, for example, the original Power Mac G4 release. There were three levels available: 400MHz, 450MHz, and 500MHz. Turns out Apple had overreached with the 500MHz speed, so they had to roll it back to 350/400/450. Quite an embarrassment at a time when Apple w…

Yes, but those were times where computer design was still being experimented on a lot. Apple has much more knowledge and resources now, Their products having issues like these, in 2016, is pretty unacceptable.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by seanp2k2 »

2bluesc wrote: post #3

Sounds like the audio amp is too powerful for the speakers if it permanently damages it. I'm betting the amp is integrated into a multi function chip or codec where it was selected because of integrated features rather then matched to the required speaker power.

A speaker which can handle 2 watts RMS on music material might very well blow up if fed 2 watts of square wave. The coil overheats since it's not moving. This is why clipping not only sounds bad, but is dangerous for drivers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipping_(audio)

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Post by k-mcgrady »

deong wrote: post #53
k-mcgrady wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. 1. What do you mean relative numbers? 2. Any stats to back this up, as I've seen conflicting data? Regardless, of course it's not going to be a big seller. It's the 10th(?) generation of a device everybody already owns. It's also the third year running the design hasn't changed at all (presumably as they want to make a big splash on n…

While I think that its Gen-1 form is too expensive to do much to the market, the Surface Studio is as mind blowing as I can remember any PC or Mac being since maybe the first iMac.

The Surface Studio looks amazing but it's a niche device. Expensive and the cool features are mostly for creative work. When I said there's no innovation or missing features I was mainly referring to general use laptop computers and the parent was referencing the MacBook.
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