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Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said.

>Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak.

Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 years.

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said. >Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak. Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 year…

While I doubt it will give us any joy on this issue, Trump's presidency will be a failure unless he successfully takes on the Uniparty establishment that operates, or rather not, like this.

I don't think his vanity will allow him to fail without making a really serious and ongoing effort, and those who deny his effectiveness and ability are by and large those who claimed he'd never get win nomination or the election.

So, my advise is don't despair quite yet. Heck, perhaps wait until 2018 to see if he doesn't run a campaign against a "Do Nothing Congress" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_United_States_Congress). Aside from Reince Priebus and that part of the RNC which followed Priebus, he owes the political establishment nothing.

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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post #5

>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said. >Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak. Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 year…

While I doubt it will give us any joy on this issue, Trump's presidency will be a failure unless he successfully takes on the Uniparty establishment that operates, or rather not, like this. I don't think his vanity will allow him to fail without making a really serious and ongoing effort, and those who deny his effectiveness and ability are by and large those who claimed he'd never get win nomination or the election.…

He owes the political establishment nothing, yet his cabinet picks are all dyed-in-the-wool Republican insiders.

The claim sounds incompatible with reality.

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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post #5

>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said. >Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak. Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 year…

While I doubt it will give us any joy on this issue, Trump's presidency will be a failure unless he successfully takes on the Uniparty establishment that operates, or rather not, like this. I don't think his vanity will allow him to fail without making a really serious and ongoing effort, and those who deny his effectiveness and ability are by and large those who claimed he'd never get win nomination or the election.…

Which cabinet nomination have you heard that gives you a belief that's going to happen? Outside of his "drain the swamp" rhetoric, what specific announcement/pre-announcement has he made to back your claims?

So far I've seen all of his cabinet picks going to "establishment" folks, and his supreme court nomination is supposedly going to be based solely on abortion, with no thought whatsoever given to citizen united (you know, the one thing he could actually do to start getting money back out of politics).

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said. >Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak. Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 year…

Wyden is usually so good on security, depressing to see him defend this rule, is there more to what he said?

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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post #8

>"Neither the Senate nor the House held a hearing or a markup on the relevant committees to evaluate these changes," Coons said. >Wyden countered the defense of the rule change we often hear from law enforcement officials that letting investigators hack into computers around the world is only small, procedural tweak. Both these statements give me very little faith in what our government will do over the next 4-8 year…

Wyden is usually so good on security, depressing to see him defend this rule, is there more to what he said?

He's not defending the rule. I think you've misunderstood that quote.

Re: Give Congress Time to Debate New Government Hacking Rule

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The rule actually makes sense in a vacuum; tying warrants to geographical jurisdictions is a relic of a pre-internet age. The real problem is more fundamental: judge shopping. If the rule change goes ahead as planned, authorities will have an inexhaustible menu of magistrates spanning the whole country to whom they can appeal for a warrant. There needs to be 1) some randomization process for assigning warrant requests to judges, and 2) a way of factoring in any past denials for a warrant in future re-requests.
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