Tried to signup but getting errors.
Tried to send message via contact me page and the page crashed.
Not very comforting.
Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month
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Hi, thank you for your comments. It depends how you look at it. All email services have limits. However, the limits we set are more as a protection for ourselves and our users. We have to deal with spammers, phishing attacks etc. We diversify based on the actual, realistic needs of the organisation. For instance, a startup of 3 would not need to send 500 emails a day, that is a clear red flag. In practice we have yet…
I appreciate the fact that you guys made product decisions, but this statement was a little red-flag to me: > For instance, a startup of 3 would not need to send 500 emails a day, that is a clear red flag. There are many startups that do cold outreach, via cold emailing, that could do roughly 500 emails per day. I am not sure how typical this is, but as someone that has started doing sending cold emails as a direct s…
If you're sending 500 unsolicited emails a day, you're spamming. "Cold outreach" sounds very much like a nice way of saying "Spamming" to me, and I wouldn't want to share a mail server with you.
For me, the bigger red flag is the response you got - I would expect a reputable mail provider to make it abundantly clear that the behaviour you describe is not welcome on their service.
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Yeah, I contacted the support and I got quick reply from Dejan that they will refund half of the bill. I just noticed that the support email was marked as spam by outlook.com (weird, since I'd already marked the invoice and other emails from Migadu as "Not Spam").
Yeah outlook is doing the same to me, keeps marking migadu emails as spam despite corrections as well as from my newly-setup-on-migadu domain. Just upgraded to paid though, hoping it'll sort itself out in time.
That's a bit of a red flag to me. If they can't deliver their own mail to the inbox, how am I supposed to trust them with mine?
Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month
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I appreciate the fact that you guys made product decisions, but this statement was a little red-flag to me: > For instance, a startup of 3 would not need to send 500 emails a day, that is a clear red flag. There are many startups that do cold outreach, via cold emailing, that could do roughly 500 emails per day. I am not sure how typical this is, but as someone that has started doing sending cold emails as a direct s…
You are absolutely right. However, our limits are not really hard limits. If someone occasionally needs to send more emails we do not make a fuss about it. However, a red flag (thanks for mentioning it :) goes up and we check if everything is ok. We never sanction users. We do have sales teams using Migadu. However, they simply estimated how much they would send and signed up for the higher plan. It's straight forwar…
So you have clients sending unsolicited emails touting for business through the same gateways as my mail?
I fear you will not be in the email business for long.
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> Or maybe I am missing something obvious? Yes. Google and Facebook aren't the only ones. > I think that the main reason 2FA has been pushed, it's for the Facebooks or the Google to have good reasons to get your valid email and your valid phone number. You don't need a valid phone number to implement 2 factor authentication. There are implementations that require it, sure. But it's not the only way.
> Yes. Google and Facebook aren't the only ones. > You don't need a valid phone number to implement 2 factor authentication. There are implementations that require it, sure. But it's not the only way. Are your referring to AWS Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA)? It's indeed a good implementation, but it's usage is very limited and most people are not referring to this when they are talking about 2FA.
> Are your referring to AWS Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA)? It's indeed a good implementation, but it's usage is very limited and most people are not referring to this when they are talking about 2FA.
AWS is using TOTP (Time-based One-time Password) as specified by RFC 6238. Off the top of my head, the same protocol is supported by Google, Lastpass, Dropbox, Fastmail, Github, Wordpress, Evernote and Outlook.com. So it stands to argue that this is, in fact, one of the schemes most people are referring to when they are talking about 2FA.
Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month
#166Tried to signup but getting errors. Tried to send message via contact me page and the page crashed. Not very comforting.
We've been overwhelmed by the interest. Thank you guys for all the interest and great comments! We're re-adjusting our infrastructure to deal with the demand. The site and infrastructure is a bit suffering today, but we're hard at work and get all ready during the day.
Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month
#167I would say that reliability is not perfect so far. I'm getting timeout error on IMAP and webmail
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I like this setup. I've done something similar with POP3 on both PC and mobile: PC downloads and archives mail, but is configured not to delete it from the server for a month. Phone never deletes from the server, and at least has access to the most recent month of email, which is usually enough while mobile. I'm intrigued by the idea of IMAP on the phone though. Are you able to sync sent mail this way? If you send ma…
> I'm intrigued by the idea of IMAP on the phone though. Are you able to sync sent mail this way? If you send mail from mobile, will the PC client get a copy of it? Nope, I use phone mostly to browse mail, and send from there if and only if inevitable. And if the sent mail is too important to keep, I BCC myself and sort it out on the PC later. If your mail provider saves sent mail, I guess you could just fetch that;…
I see. I use the bcc trick as well - it's not ideal but it works.
As for keeping on the server, it's a setting in the client. In K9, for example, Settings > Account Settings > Fetching Mail > When I delete a message.
K9 only provides "delete" or "don't delete" options. Outlook has "delete after X days", but I assume others must as well.
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Indeed. Since we started from scratch we were very careful about what goes in and what doesn't. Not trying to be ignorant regarding 2FA, but rather always prefer to hear the actual reasons. Nevertheless, thank you guys for all the suggestions, we will work to get 2FA in ASAP.
Would it be possible to consider adding security keys as a second factor of authentication? For example a Yubikey[1]. It's slowly being adopted by major players, Google, Github and LastPass to name a few. [1] https://developers.yubico.com/
If they use a 2FA service like authy, this kind of support is often built in. I don't know what these devs have in store for 2FA though.