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Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by scott_karana »

hartator wrote: post #110
tombrossman wrote: post #8

This looks pretty slick and well done for having a comprehensive FAQ section and plenty of info which answered most of my questions. For me, email is the 'master key' for most of my online accounts (because password resets are done via email so if your email account is compromised an attacker can quickly leverage access to other services) and email security is top priority. I didn't see anything about using two-facto…

At the same time, if you access your email only from secure devices, is your password at any risks?

Yes. Password leaks, bruteforcing, and some "rubber hose" attacks can be mitigated by 2FA.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by dejan »

jonathonf wrote: post #119
grakic wrote: post #117

Do you accept PayPal payments?

They don't currently - they use Stripe for card handling. Ideally they should probably be using Stripe's own recurring payment feature rather than storing card numbers themselves.

Yup, we use Stripe and their subscriptions with their payment method storage.

We do not accept PayPal in the interface, but will accept payments for yearly plans on individual basis. So if you wish to use PayPal, please just get in touch for now.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by hartator »

scott_karana wrote: post #121
hartator wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the same time, if you access your email only from secure devices, is your password at any risks?

Yes. Password leaks, bruteforcing, and some "rubber hose" attacks can be mitigated by 2FA.

Password leaks are server-side. If they don't know how to properly hash passwords, how you can trust them to implement correctly 2FA?

Bruteforcing is not realistic with even medium password strength.

If by "rubber hose", you mean physically coercion, what would forbid the attackers to coerce you for your email or your phone as well?

I think that the main reason 2FA has been pushed, it's for the Facebooks or the Google to have good reasons to get your valid email and your valid phone number.

Or maybe I am missing something obvious?

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by rahrahrah »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #109
tombrossman wrote: post #8

This looks pretty slick and well done for having a comprehensive FAQ section and plenty of info which answered most of my questions. For me, email is the 'master key' for most of my online accounts (because password resets are done via email so if your email account is compromised an attacker can quickly leverage access to other services) and email security is top priority. I didn't see anything about using two-facto…

I was also discouraged to see there was no 2fa option. Email is simply too important. One of the reasons I stick with gmail is because I know Google hires some of the best security people in the world and takes it very seriously. They also support 2fa and other security measures.

Same here.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by OrwellianChild »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #97
notheguyouthink wrote: post #94

I've been looking for a personal email provider to migrate away from Gmail to. I was assuming Fastmail, because i've heard many good things about them. Can anyone more "in the know" compare this product to Fastmail for a simple personal email solution? Note i don't care about most features, including custom domains. In fact, i'm not even sure i'll use a custom domain since that just increases the attack vector to my…

As a self-reply, i will say that Migadu having a permanent free tier is very nice. Not that i intend to use it exactly, but knowing that if i go broke and homeless, still having the same "internet contact address" is useful to me. Not that the pricing is likely to ever be an issue (knock on wood), but i'm a planner.. of sorts.

Just understand that there is a large risk to a service that has a free tier as its draw. Free accounts have resource demands that cost money. If the company becomes insolvent, your "permanent" account ceases to exist. Fastmail is appealing to many in part because it is a paid service. Regardless of the number of users, the service remains funded and will continue to exist. (Unlike the many startup services that have been pulled due to depletion of investor funds or user loss.)

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by mark212 »

protomikron wrote: post #64
dejan wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the input! I see your point and thank you for it! Honestly, we're not trying to play any marketing tricks, but rather give all help possible in order to decide whether it works for the interesting parties. Surely, we've got to trim down and brush off a lot of things. The mail going to junk is an unfortunate reality, there are never any guarantees with any mail service, and especially with new services.…

I really appreciate that and further think you are on the right track with honesty (drawbacks, etc.), as people get more and more immune to marketing bullshit. > We've already had the big ones play muscles on us several times. Without calling names, can you elaborate on that?

I've had all kinds of problem with outlook.com and other Microsoft related email recipients marking my email as spam. I use Fastmail. Fine with Gmail though.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by bjelkeman-again »

artemist wrote: post #14

If you are wondering about jurisdiction, according to their FAQ they are in Switzerland, and according to geoip their servers are hosted by OVH in France.

This is a relevant question to me as well. Where the servers and backups are hosted is important.

Re: Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month

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Post by notheguyouthink »

OrwellianChild wrote: post #127
notheguyouthink wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a self-reply, i will say that Migadu having a permanent free tier is very nice. Not that i intend to use it exactly, but knowing that if i go broke and homeless, still having the same "internet contact address" is useful to me. Not that the pricing is likely to ever be an issue (knock on wood), but i'm a planner.. of sorts.

Just understand that there is a large risk to a service that has a free tier as its draw. Free accounts have resource demands that cost money. If the company becomes insolvent, your "permanent" account ceases to exist. Fastmail is appealing to many in part because it is a paid service. Regardless of the number of users, the service remains funded and will continue to exist. (Unlike the many startup services that have…

Good point!
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