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European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

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Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

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post #6

Killer use of Caps Lock and broken English. Proud of my country. On a serious note, I really do hope that we won't follow USA steps this time. But I'm afraid that the average person doesn't really care for or understand cryptography. Maybe a dickpic approach à la John Oliver could be useful as a way to raise awareness on the matter.

> " I really do hope that we won't follow USA steps this time."

In what way, exactly? Europe is farther down this path than the US is currently.

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#22
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant. That’s not right. In most countries, you don’t need to incriminate yourself. Before making wrongheaded decisions, contact a lawyer.

This. In the U.S. at least, the 5th amendment gives you the right not to incriminate yourself. A search warrant doesn't change that. Not all authentication methods are equal it appears. Fingerprint, facial recognition, other bio-metrics aren't considered the same as if you need to "speak" your password to someone. In other words, they can make you scan your finger or look into a camera, but they can't force you to te…

How about forcing you to type the password, behind a Mantle of Power if need be, such that they can decrypt the disk, without ever knowing the password?

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#23
post #4

Smart criminals will use strong encryption anyway and won't give the passwords to law enforcement both for data at rest and sent over the Internet. I'm encrypting my disk now, but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant. I'm encrypting so if somebody steals my computer they won't read my data. I think that almost everybody is like me. Weakening that encryption doesn't help me and doesn't help i…

If the only thing sitting between you and life in prison is murder evidence on your drive, vs. a few years for obstruction of justice for not handing over a password, you'd take the "life in prison" door? I don't think most defendants or lawyers behave as nobly as that.

I assume OP and most other people don't actually have incriminating evidence of things like murder on their hard-drives.

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

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post #15

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What can a "hacker" possibly have against John Oliver? He and his team were the most effective drivers for stronger Net Neutrality policies in the US. The man is a living legend. Edit: 12 million views on the abstract topic of Net Neutrality. That's what I would call a feat indeed: https://youtu.be/fpbOEoRrHyU

Well I'm sure some people lost the respect for the guy after he jumped on the "vote for Hillary" bandwagon. But yeah, things like the Snowden interview, Net Neutrality and some other episodes are simply brilliant.

I realise Hillary might not be a pillar of excellence in her personal electrical security, but at least she isn't trying to disband Net Neutrality like Trump currently seems to be. He's changing policies that will affect things for years to come.

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What can a "hacker" possibly have against John Oliver? He and his team were the most effective drivers for stronger Net Neutrality policies in the US. The man is a living legend. Edit: 12 million views on the abstract topic of Net Neutrality. That's what I would call a feat indeed: https://youtu.be/fpbOEoRrHyU

Well I'm sure some people lost the respect for the guy after he jumped on the "vote for Hillary" bandwagon. But yeah, things like the Snowden interview, Net Neutrality and some other episodes are simply brilliant.

And he was right there is no 3rd option in the US election system.

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#27
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant. That’s not right. In most countries, you don’t need to incriminate yourself. Before making wrongheaded decisions, contact a lawyer.

On the other hand, not giving your password right away may be interpreted as an indication that you have something to hide (which you inevitably do), and they may tag you for even further scrutiny. Also, UK: don't give your password, go to prison. Indefinitely.

> Also, UK: don't give your password, go to prison. Indefinitely.

Identifinitely? I think even for terrorist charges you can only be held for so long?

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#28
post #6

Killer use of Caps Lock and broken English. Proud of my country. On a serious note, I really do hope that we won't follow USA steps this time. But I'm afraid that the average person doesn't really care for or understand cryptography. Maybe a dickpic approach à la John Oliver could be useful as a way to raise awareness on the matter.

> " I really do hope that we won't follow USA steps this time." In what way, exactly? Europe is farther down this path than the US is currently.

Is it? NIST has been putting backdoors in recommended encryption standards. USA State Department also classifies strong cryptography as a munition. As far as I know we don't do similar things in Europe (yet?), but I could be wrong.

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#29
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant. That’s not right. In most countries, you don’t need to incriminate yourself. Before making wrongheaded decisions, contact a lawyer.

On the other hand, not giving your password right away may be interpreted as an indication that you have something to hide (which you inevitably do), and they may tag you for even further scrutiny. Also, UK: don't give your password, go to prison. Indefinitely.

Is there currently someone in UK prison for not giving up their password?

Re: European Union dedicated questionnaire on the Encryption of Data

#30
post #4

Smart criminals will use strong encryption anyway and won't give the passwords to law enforcement both for data at rest and sent over the Internet. I'm encrypting my disk now, but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant. I'm encrypting so if somebody steals my computer they won't read my data. I think that almost everybody is like me. Weakening that encryption doesn't help me and doesn't help i…

>but I'll give the password to police if they have a search warrant

What if the police are wrong? Or like in Canada the police were trying to find the sources of journalists who wrote about corrupt police. And maybe in the US Trump's hate of journalists could mean something similar.

My desire for personal privacy doesn't mean I am hiding anything. Maybe I don't want anyone to read my poetry or see family pictures nothing illegal but certainly private.

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