Jon Stewart assails Apple for becoming "Big Brother"

Post by oconnor0 » Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 4:21 PM UTC

gizmo wrote: post #17

Hmm, I think Jon took a few too many creative liberties here for the sake of entertainment. 1. According to Gizmodo the door was broken in because the journalist wasn't at home. He was having dinner in a restaurant, arrived later when the search was already in progress. The authorities acted respectfully with his belongings, etc. There is a huge difference between ringing the bell a few times and breaking the door wh…

Post by akshaybhat » Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 4:33 PM UTC

fnid2 wrote: post #86

siculars wrote: post #24

I'm really with Stewart on this one. Both in that I love Apple products and that I think Apple is becoming "The Man" they used to rail against. Can you be a dominant player and not be "The Man"? Well, I think Google is making a good go of it. For what it's worth I'm going to Google I/O this year and not WWDC. Market be damned, my philosophy compels me to seek out open. And nowadays Google is out-opening Apple.

Google is much more "Big Brother" then Apple. WHY? Because if you don't use Apple products, Apple doesn't care. They don't track you and they don't store your information. Google however is a different case. Even if I don't intend to use Google's products, I don't search from their site, and I am not a customer of any of their products, they STILL track me through javascript files linked to or embedded by other websi…

Post by stcredzero » Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 5:02 PM UTC

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #69

BRadmin wrote: post #37

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I don't believe he's giving an opinion about Apple's actions, rather the accuracy of calling them "Big Brother" in light of the fact that other companies maintain a lot more information about their users than Apple does.

The Big Brother analogy isn't about how much information you collect, it's about how much control you assert.

Post by jlmendez » Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 5:12 PM UTC

Retric wrote: post #70

ThomPete wrote: post #55

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Googles business model requires openes I really don't think it's fair to compare the two. Apple sell products, google sell advertising. Apple is dependent only on their own ecosystem, google on the entire Internet. I would be much more worried about the data that google collects about you than apple. And let's not forget that google is not more open than you don't know exactly how their search algorithms work and hav…

I think Google is in a much more big brother relationship with it's users than Apple is. Apple restricts it's HW and what can run on it, but it does not keep track of it's Users. IMO, Apple is really much more Disneyland where everything is expensive, looks nice, and is under their control. Also working as a vendor at Disneyland really sucks and involves a lot of rules which can change at any time. But, Disneyland on…

Post by RyanMcGreal » Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 6:24 PM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #95

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Big Brother analogy isn't about how much information you collect, it's about how much control you assert.

Actually, ubiquitous surveillance was a big part of the Big Brother apparatus in 1984.