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Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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I don't like rules. 20 rules to effective learning, 50 rules to great success in life etc. You see those articles everywhere. Nobody can memorize those 20-50 rules; more often than not, too many rules will hide the important ideas that might be hidden in one of those points. Instead of rules I would like to see principles that are extracted out of these rules.

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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post #9

If you're wondering if it's (supermemo) worth your time, let me share with you my 10 (ten) years supermeme learning conclusions. I got supermemo advanced english course (20k phrases) around 2004 as a present and started it in 2005. Initially I thought it will take 2..4 years. Exactly 10 years later, on September 2015 I was at 19k. I reached last 20k phrase (but not finished the course) around spring 2016. I ended doi…

Now that you're done, why do you think your initial estimate was so far off?

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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post #9

If you're wondering if it's (supermemo) worth your time, let me share with you my 10 (ten) years supermeme learning conclusions. I got supermemo advanced english course (20k phrases) around 2004 as a present and started it in 2005. Initially I thought it will take 2..4 years. Exactly 10 years later, on September 2015 I was at 19k. I reached last 20k phrase (but not finished the course) around spring 2016. I ended doi…

This is not a dig at the parent - they clearly have commitment and drive, but since they're promoting SuperMemo rather than commenting on the post, let me just say that this:

"I would did it again!!"

or this:

"Of course better english command came also with the course"

(among a choice of several examples) should tell you everything you need to know about the effectiveness of SuperMemo after 10 years of learning.

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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post #9

If you're wondering if it's (supermemo) worth your time, let me share with you my 10 (ten) years supermeme learning conclusions. I got supermemo advanced english course (20k phrases) around 2004 as a present and started it in 2005. Initially I thought it will take 2..4 years. Exactly 10 years later, on September 2015 I was at 19k. I reached last 20k phrase (but not finished the course) around spring 2016. I ended doi…

This is not a dig at the parent - they clearly have commitment and drive, but since they're promoting SuperMemo rather than commenting on the post, let me just say that this: "I would did it again!!" or this: "Of course better english command came also with the course" (among a choice of several examples) should tell you everything you need to know about the effectiveness of SuperMemo after 10 years of learning.

But 12.5 minutes a day for 10 years is only 761 hours. The purpose of SuperMemo is to optimise for total time spent. (Of course, the specific course/material might not have been the most effective.)

But I guess that argument doesn't hold water, since rdslw is surely also exposed to a lot of other material in English.

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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post #2

Skip to the end and read the summary first

It makes me wonder if summaries should come first in web articles.

They should, in all things that include a summary, web article or otherwise. When a tl;dr is at the end of something, it is tl;ar (too late; already read). It drives me nuts, it defeats the whole purpose.

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

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post #2

Skip to the end and read the summary first

It makes me wonder if summaries should come first in web articles.

On a related note, Romans wrote sums at the top of a stack of numbers they were adding. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&searc...

Summaries at the top, always.

Re: Effective learning: Rules of formulating knowledge (1999)

#20
post #9

If you're wondering if it's (supermemo) worth your time, let me share with you my 10 (ten) years supermeme learning conclusions. I got supermemo advanced english course (20k phrases) around 2004 as a present and started it in 2005. Initially I thought it will take 2..4 years. Exactly 10 years later, on September 2015 I was at 19k. I reached last 20k phrase (but not finished the course) around spring 2016. I ended doi…

This is not a dig at the parent - they clearly have commitment and drive, but since they're promoting SuperMemo rather than commenting on the post, let me just say that this: "I would did it again!!" or this: "Of course better english command came also with the course" (among a choice of several examples) should tell you everything you need to know about the effectiveness of SuperMemo after 10 years of learning.

Those are grammar/style issues, though: 'did' is a tense error, and 'came also' is a reversal of the normal phrase 'also came'. (Not capitalizing 'English' is just being sloppy, as we can safely assume that they know English is a proper noun, since even non-English speakers know that.) Grammar and composition are hard to fit into the SRS framework because you need feedback on subtle errors and exposure to a wide variety of native writing. As far as vocabulary goes, which is what spaced repetition is particularly claimed to be good for, he looks fine to me. Certainly he's better off than if he had tried Rosetta Stone or something...
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