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Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by danharaj »

sfifs wrote: post #21

Most external people forget that India is closer to the model of Europe with a united monetary policy than a US or China or any individual countries it is compared to. Each province is big enough to be a country in itself, has significant power and provincial politics are as diverse as the spectrum of governments across Europe (there's actually an elected communist government in a province). The ruling coalition nati…

A wave of right wing nationalism and protofascism is sweeping over Europe, too.

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by jangid »

throwawayIndian wrote: post #27
flawedluck wrote: post #17

Modi isn't inspired by Nazis, neither is he an anti-Muslim. The author is just making a big deal of small things and quoting things out of context. "Protesting students?- Anti-nationalist". Yeah except the student was protesting against the hanging of a cruel terrorist. "Appeal to social frustration" - makes no sense. India is special in this case in no way. "Craves heroic death" - We do make a big deal when someone…

It is a fact that Modi encouraged killing of Muslim families to catapult himself at centerstage politics. One of his cabinet ministers is even a convicted murderer!, of his own colleague in office: research on home minister Haren Pandya.

Supreme Court of India discharged Mr. Modi, that too under blood thirsty Congress government. What other proofs are required. Because of Gujarat governments support, free trial could have been conducted. Its own minister was convicted. Give me another such example. Ex-minister served the punishment under the government of his own political party.

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by jangid »

pksadiq wrote: post #19
flawedluck wrote: post #17

Modi isn't inspired by Nazis, neither is he an anti-Muslim. The author is just making a big deal of small things and quoting things out of context. "Protesting students?- Anti-nationalist". Yeah except the student was protesting against the hanging of a cruel terrorist. "Appeal to social frustration" - makes no sense. India is special in this case in no way. "Craves heroic death" - We do make a big deal when someone…

> neither is he an anti-Muslim. [citation needed] (considering his involvement in Gujrat riots and Babari Masjid issues.).

> (considering his involvement in Gujrat riots and Babari Masjid issues.)

[citation needed] (Considering Supreme Court Judgement on Mr. Modi)

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by jangid »

neigel_f wrote: post #37

Seems like HN people has a lot of Pro Congress people in them. How long are you gonna keep the narrative of that one riot and say Modi did that and sweep away hundreds of bloodbath across India under various Leftist and "Secular" party ruled states. I think it's not very romantic to report these facts in international media. God these self declared Liberals are everywhere, from New York Times, CNN, BBC, Huffington Po…

> It would be good if HN keeps out of politics, and specially anything related to India.

It is better that we put our point across than saying that keep it of HN. BTW, I am a big fan of Mr. Modi. Cheers.

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by tmptmp »

Whenever Mr. Modi gets mentioned some leftists people seem to pin point Gujriat (a state in India) riots to tarnish him where hundreds of Muslims were killed, but conveniently don't mention the fact that these riots were started by Muslims. These leftists had opposed Mr. Modi and prevented him from entering USA before he became their PM.

AFAIK, Gujriat riots were mainly a response to the cruel burning of lots of Hindoos by jihadist Islamists. It seems, the vicious and barbaric ideology of Islam creates problems everywhere it goes and starts to become even localized majority.

We can also see that Islamists have been clashing even with the Buddists in Sri Lanka and Myanmar.

Disclaimer: I am pitching here as an anti-Islam (not anti-Muslim) liberal person. I do not condone the killing of innocent people whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims.

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by sfifs »

danharaj wrote: post #41
sfifs wrote: post #21

Most external people forget that India is closer to the model of Europe with a united monetary policy than a US or China or any individual countries it is compared to. Each province is big enough to be a country in itself, has significant power and provincial politics are as diverse as the spectrum of governments across Europe (there's actually an elected communist government in a province). The ruling coalition nati…

A wave of right wing nationalism and protofascism is sweeping over Europe, too.

Don't forget that if you look at the spectrum of provincial and national politics in India over the last 60 years, we've seen literally everything - linguistic regional movements for state formation, religious voting blocks, caste based voting blocks, thug-rule strongmen, regionalism (Bal Thackery etc) communists, dictatorship in all but name as we as well as educated socialists & professionals. These things have gone in cycles & overall all things considered the current set of political leadership in provinces & center seems to be a marked improvement over history (except possibly in Uttar Pradesh - but that's coming up for elections in Feb 17)

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by NotACongitard »

pksadiq wrote: post #19
flawedluck wrote: post #17

Modi isn't inspired by Nazis, neither is he an anti-Muslim. The author is just making a big deal of small things and quoting things out of context. "Protesting students?- Anti-nationalist". Yeah except the student was protesting against the hanging of a cruel terrorist. "Appeal to social frustration" - makes no sense. India is special in this case in no way. "Craves heroic death" - We do make a big deal when someone…

> neither is he an anti-Muslim. [citation needed] (considering his involvement in Gujrat riots and Babari Masjid issues.).

@pksadiq,

>> [citation needed] (considering his involvement in Gujrat riots and Babari Masjid issues.).

What about those Hindus burnt alive in a train by muslim terrorists? Do you support them?

Re: India is displaying classic signs that foreshadow fascism

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Post by sremani »

realrocker wrote: post #30
throwawayIndian wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh man! The Big Lebowski reference is 200% accurate. On a serious note though, it feels almost certain that the Modi Government is going to lead India into another bloodshed, sooner or later. I hope not but that sinking feeling just doesn't go away given his track record.

It's already happened with the lynchings, killings and sporadic riots, but at scale of India, it just doesn't leave a big enough mark. It's kind of sad really. India rationalizes the most horrific acts of humanity, shrugs and moves on.

Have you lived through 80s, and the constant riots in India during that time ? India is a no where near being a fascist country, because for love of god, its not ONE country.

Calling RSS alt-right, completely makes the whole article laughable. RSS was the Right, BJP was the Right, Jan Sangh (BJP's predecessor) was the Right and they were the only game in town, in a mostly Fabian socialist India.

Please go read some History.

Here is a nugget. In Hyderabad riots only happened in INC regime, when TDP was in power no riots. Now both are Centre-Left populist parties.

Rejection of Neo-liberalism is not fascism and the Harvard-Soviet fragilistas of the world, summoning ghosts of Hitler when a country like India is not ONE race is amusing but also horrifying because these morons actually have a platform for their "fake news".

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