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Auto Safety Regulators Seek a Driver Mode to Block Apps

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Re: Auto Safety Regulators Seek a Driver Mode to Block Apps

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Many cars have seat sensors - so disable the phone if there is only the driver's seat occupied

And watch as MPG drops when people start carrying 100 pounds of whatever in the passenger seat.

My car's sensor will trigger on a semi-decent sized watermelon. Drives me fucking insane - it's a Volvo so it really explodes when it triggers when going fast...

It's like somebody just fired a missile at you -.-

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What if you are just a passenger in the car? How will they determine this?

easiest is probably to install a camera in the car which films the driver and alerts the authorities when you are using the cell.

yeah because fuck privacy amiright guys? /s

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I hope they do this. I would love to laugh while the carriers never sell another phone and everybody else installs Cyanogen. Toyota had to remove a system diagnostic feature that would disable the "can't adjust nav system while driving" misfeature. I can just imagine the fuss if you forced someone under 35 to actually not be able to use their phone for 60 seconds.

I wish Toyota would release an update for older vehicles. Our Prius V won't let you adjust the navigation destination or even reconnect bluetooth devices while in gear (even with a passenger!). This means that if the bluetooth connection dies, it won't reconnect until you pull over. Huge pain in the butt. Everything this article suggests sounds like a disaster. I'm sure they'll implement it with low range NFC around…

In Japan, dealers install a kill switch for the navi blocker and wink at you when they deliver the car. Everyone drives with live tv on the dash in full view of the driver and fully interactive touch screen navi.

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If this did pass I can imagine the number of rooted smart phones would skyrocket. There has never really been a compelling reason to root an iPhone, but I bet for a lot of people this would be it.

Or, as another comment awesomely suggests, we'll have drive-safe modes that apps can support, boosting both the ergonomy (it's annoying on an iPad that the large screen only displays a tiny 24px icon to switch tracks) and the driving safety.

It's all because we, app developers, haven't made things great yet, but sure it's a strong incentive for Apple to up their game.

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What happens when people try to do this while driving with their knees?

Or, people who don't have two hands?

Man without arms denied loan because he can't provide finger prints

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38077013/man-without-a...

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I feel like something which is missing from this entire conversation is the idea of building user interfaces which are easier to use while driving. It feels like we are stuck in an era when abstinence was the only teen pregnancy solution which was politically safe to discuss. A simple example would be a music player where the UI is a full screen block of solid color which recognizes swipe guestures to control playbac…

What makes you think that it's possible for people to drive and use their phone at the same time at all? Driver distraction is the number one cause of accidents, and when you're driving at 60 mph, even looking away for a second is enough to cause an accident.

Would you be comfortable with a bus driver ever using their phone on the job while driving? Your taxi driver?

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Random brainstorm: Disable every phone in motion, the only way to enable it is to pair with the car. If everyone has to register with a single database and car manufactures have control over it then the car can detect if the person paired with Bluetooth is allowed to be on their phone or not. This wouldn't work if driver wanted the passenger to use their phone. Just thinking out loud, seeing as this is a idea I don't…

Then I can't use phone on the bus or the train...

Every other passenger will be happy tho'.

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easiest is probably to install a camera in the car which films the driver and alerts the authorities when you are using the cell.

yeah because fuck privacy amiright guys? /s

smart people sure are stupid

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I feel like something which is missing from this entire conversation is the idea of building user interfaces which are easier to use while driving. It feels like we are stuck in an era when abstinence was the only teen pregnancy solution which was politically safe to discuss. A simple example would be a music player where the UI is a full screen block of solid color which recognizes swipe guestures to control playbac…

> font size boost if the phone is moving faster than 10 mph

I'm sure people using public transit would be absolutely thrilled!

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A good question. From the article, one of the things the guidelines call for is that manufacturers "develop technology to identify when the devices are being used by a driver while driving. That would ensure the limits are placed on drivers and not other vehicle occupants." I bet that if the handset manufacturers were to work with the car manufacturers, they could pretty easily locate the phone to a foot or so with m…

Really? Deploy location technology inside a car just to enforce a "driver mode"? A market that consistently rejects tech to enforce speed limits isn't going to accept technology to limit app use in cars. All it will take is one story of someone trapped inside a crashed/stuck car being unable to call for help, or unable to text for help, and nobody will dare to so disable phones. I cannot wait to see that tech also be…

That's overly hyperbolic. Nobody is saying the phone should be completely disabled, just that they should design things so you need to interact with them less. Voice control is a fantastic tool here IMO.

But also, would it be that crazy for them to disable these restrictions in the case of an accident? Like how current cars unlock doors, shut off the engine, and put on flashers in the case of an accident now.

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