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Fidel Castro has died

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Post by k-mcgrady »

formula1 wrote: post #415
k-mcgrady wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "Why are cubans in miami celebrating his death?" Because they didn't like him and got out. There were people who celebrated Margaret Thatcher's death. There would be people who would celebrate the death of some current world leaders. On the other hand there would be people who would mourn those deaths.

Did Magret Thatcher execute people? Did she create an air of fear and enforce isolationism at the expense of a country they ruled? These are apples and oranges

In case you completely misunderstood my point here it is again:

"Why are cubans in miami celebrating his death?"

Because they are a group of Cubans who don't like him. There are also Cubans mourning his death. Like all politicians some people liked his policies (because they benefited from them) and will be sad he's dead and others disliked his policies (because they did not benefit from them) and will be happy he's dead. Ultimately what he did or didn't do has no relevance to your question.

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Post by douche »

pavanred wrote: post #270
mzw_mzw wrote: post #212

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And of course the Communist economic system -- the one that has led to immiseration and collapse everywhere it has been tried, all over the world -- has nothing to do with this. Must be the embargo!

China

Trying to apply communist ideology directly in China led to famines nearly as deadly as a decade and a half of war, both civil and against the Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

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Post by leadingthenet »

formula1 wrote: post #417
leadingthenet wrote: post #414

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Yes.

I hope people like you move to countries under dictatorships. Edit : not you, the person you were pretending to be. I hope for you and everyone the very best

I have. Currently living in the UK.

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Post by CalChris »

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #366

I invite you to step back and think that you are free to share your filomarxisms here where you have freedoms instead of promoting a genocidal system that is at heart and soul of totalitarian people like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and Castro. Hasta la liberty siempre! Enjoy

Castro just doesn't belong in that sentence. Hitler does.

Why does the Right Wing have such a love affair with Putin and such a hatred for Castro?

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Post by formula1 »

leadingthenet wrote: post #423
formula1 wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope people like you move to countries under dictatorships. Edit : not you, the person you were pretending to be. I hope for you and everyone the very best

I have. Currently living in the UK.

God, your sense of humor is on point.

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Post by Lordarminius »

GunboatDiplomat wrote: post #411

This is propaganda, disgustingly incorrect propaganda, so far off base the only conceivable way you could have written it is to be maliciously lying.

> This is propaganda, disgustingly incorrect propaganda, so far off base the only conceivable way you could have written it is to be maliciously lying.

Your emotional reaction(disgust) is up to you. Be objective. Pray,what part of it is untrue? What is incorrect and where do I lie? Kindly be specific.

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Post by gaius »

throwaway-hn123 wrote: post #356
gaius wrote: post #309

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None of that is true. I've been to Havana; I've seen the buildings where 3 families are crammed into an apartment meant for one, where the windows are covered with cardboard because there's no glass, the electricity is on a few hours a day, where the concrete is crumbling so badly you could break it off with your fingers. And I've seen just outside town the gorgeous villas with manicured gardens and water features, w…

I bet you've spent a lot of time in some of the estates in Tottenham, Harlesden or Haringey. You went on a tourists' visit of poverty. Try doing the same in London, and let's see how you do there, bruv.

I have and the worst sink estate in London is nothing like as bad as Havana, at least not in terms of the physical infrastructure. Crime is probably worse in London.

And yes I am aware that as a tourist those are the bits I was allowed to see; I'll wager the "real" Cuba is far worse.

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Post by GunboatDiplomat »

usaphp wrote: post #139
hal9000xp wrote: post #106

As a Russian, who was born in USSR, I regret that CIA has failed to assassinate him 50 years ago. May be Cuba would be liberated from communist/socialist disease. Look at countries who declared a war against free markets - Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea. They are absolutely pathetic.

Look at counties that did not declare war against free markets. Look at mexico, look at Haiti, or some other Caribbean countries, most of them are doing much worse than Cuba. Communism/socialism disease did not harm China that much ether. Embargo is what hurt Cuba

China was doing really really badly until Mao died and Deng took power and began implementing market reforms, bringing capitalism in.

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Post by literallycancer »

gragas wrote: post #60
matt4077 wrote: post #25

He has certainly led one of the most exciting lives of our times... And despite his flaws (and/or crimes against humanity) I can't help but wonder how Cuba would have faired under different leadership. Looking at the next-island neighbors in Haiti, or any number of comparable African countries, it seems the Cubans got the better deal. Just one example: life expectancy is 15 years higher than Haiti, and actually even…

>with a superpower fixated on killing you (and ruining you economy) next door Look at how awful the quality of life in Cuba is today. Look at its people's lack of basic freedoms. Look at its awful economy. The US tried to save Cuba from itself.

The US has a long history of sponsoring violent coups. I don't think you get to talk about 'saving' anyone.

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Post by GunboatDiplomat »

IslaDeEncanta wrote: post #248
elcapitan wrote: post #18

I guess death by old age is definitely an "unnatural" death for a dictator. When he was very old but still in power, I always wondered if he would just suddenly die one day and his country would descend into chaos. At least that has not happened, what, if you like or dislike him, you should probably still credit him. I hope Cuba will develop into a freer society over time.

Cuba is not a dictatorship. It's a democracy with extremely localized control.

And Venezuela is a paradise on earth!
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