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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by [deleted] »

problems wrote: post #44
zapu wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm far from stating that t_d used bots to push submissions up, because there is no definite proof, but what I know for sure is that the US election ruined browsing /r/all for me. While it was mostly porn and memes before, every now and then I would bump into something interesting from a subreddit I didn't know. But during the election it was 90% of either t_d or sandersforpresident. EDIT: Apparently reddit has chang…

Reddit actually tweaked the /r/all algorithm to change this. Which basically looks like a political move and it is kind of sketchy in that regard, but for users like you it's probably beneficial.

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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by lucb1e »

justin_vanw wrote: post #14
yxhuvud wrote: post #4

While the behaviour of the Reddit CEO was more than a little bit immature and short-sighted, closing down a functioning community in response seems almost as stupid. If they try to shut it down, then the community at Reddit will create a version of it that is not closed down.

I'm not a /r/golang user, but I think this is a political statement of 'we will not tolerate the abuse of users by people entrusted with their data', which I think is fair. Maybe they should just call for the CEO to leave or something.

> I think this is a political statement

Yet when people protested against SOPA/PIPA, we took it down for a day. Not indefinitely.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by nols »

Even if they effectively delete /r/golang or close it while retaining control so others can't use it, the users will just create another one. I doubt it will have a large impact on the future of golang on Reddit, it will just get rid of years of discussion and make it slightly more difficult to use. You don't want to use Reddit? Cool, don't. There are still millions who do want to use it and some might use that to find information on golang.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by IshKebab »

nicpottier wrote: post #15
shurcooL wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Its user experience is straight from the 90s. Can't edit your messages to fix typos, can't do pleasant and friendly formatting with preview, and don't even get me started on controls over notifications.

It's a mailing list.. you want it to be a forum, but that's not the point or what it is meant to be. Some of us prefer mailing lists and interacting over email in our preferred client over having to go to various websites and deal with their varying user interfaces.

D has a forum that is also a mailing list and it is far superior to Google Groups. It's also probably the fastest site on the web I've ever seen.

https://forum.dlang.org/

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by [deleted] »

rocketpastsix wrote: post #23
heroprotagonist wrote: post #18

So.. here's the thing. I think that spez did everyone a favor by editing those user comments. We know that politicians and corporations game the system already with fake accounts, presumably as a tool for manipulating public opinion. We know from the code that user comments aren't encrypted at all, or their voting tallies. It would require a very small tweak to manipulate things from the server side. Given that, user…

Not to mention, its pretty widely known that /r/the_donald uses bots to up the votes and push their stuff higher on /r/all. Not that Im thrilled that Spez did what he did, but /r/the_donald has been pushing the line ever since it was created.

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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by pavel_lishin »

justin_vanw wrote: post #14
yxhuvud wrote: post #4

While the behaviour of the Reddit CEO was more than a little bit immature and short-sighted, closing down a functioning community in response seems almost as stupid. If they try to shut it down, then the community at Reddit will create a version of it that is not closed down.

I'm not a /r/golang user, but I think this is a political statement of 'we will not tolerate the abuse of users by people entrusted with their data', which I think is fair. Maybe they should just call for the CEO to leave or something.

Except this is the admins making the statement, potentially taking their ball and going home - leaving a lot of people on the court wondering what to do next.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by bradfitz »

Tharkun wrote: post #9

Their motivation for leaving Reddit is incredibly silly. Especially given that Google Groups -- of all things -- is their preferred alternative.

I was the one who proposed deleting /r/golang.

Google Groups is not my preferred alternative by any means. Google Groups is a 1990's webmail interface to crappy but federated SMTP.

There is very little to like about it, but at least the underlying protocol (SMTP) is federated.

It is NOT an alternative to Reddit, which has a nice UI & voting system.

It's unfortunate that Reddit is not a reliable platform which can be trusted.

If Github were modifying our code for their own amusement we wouldn't trust them for a platform either.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Post by hyperpape »

mrweasel wrote: post #3

I get their point, but I also think that a large part of the reason that people are using the Golang subreddit is Google Groups. If the Go team could just abandon Google Groups as the main forum for discussing Go, then just maybe there wouldn't be a need for the subreddit. I know that some people like Google Groups, but there's at least an equally large group that absolutely hate it. Personally I find it to be such a…

For example, on my phone, it just prompted me for a gmail login to read the thread, with no obvious way around the login.
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