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Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

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Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

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I knew, and I was prompted. I can understand why this might upset people, but for me I hope it will make brew a better product. I'm sure we all know as developers how annoying it can be to not know the problems users have, and what they are using your software for -- that's why most websites have analytics. I'm hoping to add something similar to software I work on, with an opt-out of course. I believe it will help me…

If this is so good, make it out in. Out out is dishonest.

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

#22
post #17

I knew, and I was prompted. I can understand why this might upset people, but for me I hope it will make brew a better product. I'm sure we all know as developers how annoying it can be to not know the problems users have, and what they are using your software for -- that's why most websites have analytics. I'm hoping to add something similar to software I work on, with an opt-out of course. I believe it will help me…

Please make it opt in. If you truly believe people closely read the prompts for having their data harvested, a default to "No" should not impact you at all. If you don't believe they read the prompts closely, you're an asshole for stealing data by default.

'Stealing' data? Is that like 'stealing' by downloading a movie?

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

#23
post #17

I knew, and I was prompted. I can understand why this might upset people, but for me I hope it will make brew a better product. I'm sure we all know as developers how annoying it can be to not know the problems users have, and what they are using your software for -- that's why most websites have analytics. I'm hoping to add something similar to software I work on, with an opt-out of course. I believe it will help me…

Please make it opt in. If you truly believe people closely read the prompts for having their data harvested, a default to "No" should not impact you at all. If you don't believe they read the prompts closely, you're an asshole for stealing data by default.

Calling it theft feels a bit hyperbolic.

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

#24
post #12

I've seen this crop up a few times recently and a vocal minority seems to panic every time. I ran into it the other day installing pm2 w/ npm which downloads an optional package that they use for analytics https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/blob/master/package.json#L184 Is the problem that they are using google's service? Is it the tracking that people don't like? Is it the messaging/copy to the users? I'm sure there's p…

Privacy erodes one complacent action at a time. Every time people secretly (if it weren't subversive the default would be opt-in) funnel information off to Google or some other massive aggregation point, we should raise hell rather than bending over and accepting this hostile behavior.

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

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post #22
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please make it opt in. If you truly believe people closely read the prompts for having their data harvested, a default to "No" should not impact you at all. If you don't believe they read the prompts closely, you're an asshole for stealing data by default.

'Stealing' data? Is that like 'stealing' by downloading a movie?

"Exfiltrating" would be a better word here.

(Also, downloading a movie is a different thing - there you're not stealing nor exfiltrating anything, you're downloading data as intended by uploader, who may or may not have the copyrights for that data.)

(INB4, ripping a DVD and uploading it is not data theft. Exfiltrating a pre-release copy from movie company's servers would be data theft.)

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

#27
post #22
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please make it opt in. If you truly believe people closely read the prompts for having their data harvested, a default to "No" should not impact you at all. If you don't believe they read the prompts closely, you're an asshole for stealing data by default.

'Stealing' data? Is that like 'stealing' by downloading a movie?

No, it's like stealing personally identifying information and sending it to the world's largest ad company.

Re: Brew commands send data to Google Analytics

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post #19

Yes we know. brew tells you that. And you can disable it. Data is being sent to Google everytime you do almost anything in almost all websites, using the same technology. So what? Some of the times it's to make the product better, or better targeted. Some other times it's just for spying on the users. Let's stop complaining about stuff that someone does and tell you they do it. There are many more that do the same th…

We have to start somewhere. Opt in should always be the standard.
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