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HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by swannodette »

potatolicious wrote: post #91
mixmax wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This deal (...) gives HP all the things they need to go head-to-head with Apple." Except for the one thing that makes apple products special: Design.

I've used the Pre (I have an iPhone) - it is incredibly solidly designed. Its main problems are twofold: - It's slow. Really slow. If they can get a 2-3x performance improvement overall throughout webOS, they can actually compete with Apple. So far it's just not snappy enough to be a pleasant experience. - The marketing sucked. Seriously, what the hell. It's almost as if they went out of the way to convince you to no…

In the area of performance, going with V8 sounds like a smart move. It's now faster than Python 3k and Ruby 1.9 if the Computer Benchmarks Game is to be believed.

I like my iPhone/iPad but it's high time Apple had some real competition.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by danudey »

johns wrote: post #41
mos1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I view 'Sent from my BlackBerry / iPhone' as a way of explaining why the email is so short.

Or why it has so many typos.

iPhone users rarely send e-mail with typos; instead, they send e-mail with (at best) nonsensical words or phrases in place of what they meant, or (at worst) entirely sensical phrases that had nothing to do with what they meant ('how big is that disk you got last night' -> 'how big is that dick you got last night').

As an iPhone owner, I've learned to double-check everything I type.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by sandipc »

inerte wrote: post #84
antirez wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then acquire a startup that is inside that business. Take it separated from yourself, but just provide enough money for them to continue working better, faster, with more people. Tell them what you need. Not interms of specifications, you as a big company are not good about it probably, everything will be too much formal and the resulting code will suck. Just tell your start up the final result , the user experience.…

Buying another company "instantly" transfer their assets/resources to you. The knowledgeable people, the patents, the deals with suppliers and clients, the brand. Even with what could be considered infinite money, it takes time to build a Palm (and then there's the risk).

not to mention all the nice Palm IP that comes along with the Palm purchase

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

#104

Post by potatolicious »

swannodette wrote: post #101
potatolicious wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used the Pre (I have an iPhone) - it is incredibly solidly designed. Its main problems are twofold: - It's slow. Really slow. If they can get a 2-3x performance improvement overall throughout webOS, they can actually compete with Apple. So far it's just not snappy enough to be a pleasant experience. - The marketing sucked. Seriously, what the hell. It's almost as if they went out of the way to convince you to no…

In the area of performance, going with V8 sounds like a smart move. It's now faster than Python 3k and Ruby 1.9 if the Computer Benchmarks Game is to be believed. I like my iPhone/iPad but it's high time Apple had some real competition.

It's really too bad that the software wasn't faster and more solid out of the gate - they had some key innovations that Apple still doesn't have: social media integration.

Do I want my Facebook contacts in my address book? Hell yes. Would I like a dashboard with recent Facebook updates from my friends? Duh.

Palm has an innovative head on its shoulders, I for one am glad they are in a position to have a deep pit of money with which to battle Apple.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by megablast »

mortenjorck wrote: post #65

Dear HP: Please don't mess this up. You're a storied pioneer in tech, but you got massive and lost your sense of direction. You're about to acquire something of a microcosm of yourself—a company that pioneered an industry but lost its way as it grew. The difference is that your new acquisition rediscovered its sense of curiosity and turned itself around, too late to save itself, but brilliantly so nonetheless. You ca…

HP is now run by business men, not engineers. If Carla didn't prove this to you, then you are probably never going to get it. The fact is, they don't care about Compaq, DEC, Palm, or even HP. They just want to pull in enough money over the next few years, until they retire. They could be selling Paper cups for all they care about the product, as long as they still get their bonuses.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by megablast »

locopati wrote: post #31
jxcole wrote: post #22

"Palm’s unparalleled webOS platform" Question: is Palm's web os platform really unparalleled? Or is it quickly falling behind the race that is now dominated by iPhone and android?

afaik webos has the best multi-tasking system out there and the easiest entry point (since it's just js, css & html)

I would not say it is easy to get into. When I first tried creating an app using the SDK when it first came out, there was no good debugging, lots of things going wrong for me with no way to see what the problem was. Uncomparable to Xcode environment.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by megablast »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #15
evo_9 wrote: post #12

This is very surprising. I'd speculated that Sony or RIM would consider buying them once HTC fell out of favor. Sony seemed to be a good fit from a capacity to deliver a high quality product, plus they have ability, much like Apple, to sell stuff at a premium. RIM seemed less likely but given their need for a new phone OS, it seemed like a pretty easy fit. Corporate culture might have been a factor against them doing…

HP's not the sort of company that can enter a new market like this and turn it on its ear This isn't a new market for HP. They've been a leader in the PocketPC space for years, with their Axim line, and Compaq's Ipaq link (no, Apple didn't invent the "i" thing). I wonder now what's to become of the Ipaqs. I assume that the Windows Mobile based devices will simply be phased out.

Replace Axim with Jornada.

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by sans-serif »

antirez wrote: post #68
jbellis wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big companies are terrible at solving problems by throwing $millions at them. Depressing, but true.

Then acquire a startup that is inside that business. Take it separated from yourself, but just provide enough money for them to continue working better, faster, with more people. Tell them what you need. Not interms of specifications, you as a big company are not good about it probably, everything will be too much formal and the resulting code will suck. Just tell your start up the final result , the user experience.…

a.l.a. Facebook

Re: HP Buying Palm For $1.2 Billion

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Post by sanj »

For years I've loved HP's printers but found the drivers to be a complete mess. I've been left with the sense that they have a incredibly solid hardware/firmware group, but the rest of their software was incredibly poorly designed: that they really didn't understand software at all.

Is there a compelling reason to believe that HP won't make a mess of the software in WebOS?

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