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We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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I think he straight up lied, or "rused" as I think they call it, the journalist. I mean, the line >>>Coler says his writers have tried to write fake news for liberals — but they just never take the bait.<<< is as blatant winking and nudging as it can get without spelling it out. In other words "Liberals never take the bait", he told to a liberal as he was taking the bait.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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post #121

I think he straight up lied, or "rused" as I think they call it, the journalist. I mean, the line >>>Coler says his writers have tried to write fake news for liberals — but they just never take the bait.<<< is as blatant winking and nudging as it can get without spelling it out. In other words "Liberals never take the bait", he told to a liberal as he was taking the bait.

Either that, or they're not very good at writing fake stories for liberals. They might have different triggers that he's unable to find.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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I notice that his attempts to seed fake news on the liberal side always got promptly debunked. I think this election is going to be the high water mark for fake news, its just that liberals are ahead of the curve in being skeptical about information on the Net. What this needs is a click-baitey headline to make it go viral on the Right. Something like "You won't believe how this liberal guy made $$$ scamming conserva…

> its just that liberals are ahead of the curve in being skeptical about information on the Net.

The entire raison-d-etre of the "alternative right" websites is that conservative views are being suppressed in the entire leftist-leaning media establishment. If anything, liberals missed the entire ideological wave by pitting their heads in the sand, until it hit came back to bite them.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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What boggles my mind is that Facebook and Twitter are so very complicit by creating platforms for very granular targeting. You liked the Green Bay Packers, a gun owners group, an old 2008 Tea Party video, live 60 miles outside of a city and between 40-65? Not only is that profile there, Facebook ads will tell you almost exactly how large your reach is. This is nothing more than information arbitrage, and that the uni…

Google beat them to it. Ad words is insane.... wanna target by individual town?

Yes you can and more

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

#125

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>the fake news was created by the left to discredit the alt-right I would say that this individual who was a liberal tried to do this. This isn't like a group of leftists conspiring to do (anti-)propaganda. It is pretty stupid, and his continuation of it is extremely confusing. Sorry, but a side rant to the more "entrepreneurial" startup-cats who browse here. Would you consider this fellow and others like him an entr…

The term "entrepreneur" is value-neutral. It refers to someone who successfully forms a business venture by noticing and taking advantage of an opportunity or need.

> The term "entrepreneur" is value-neutral.

Even on Hacker News?

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

#126

This was the most interesting part for me... -------- He says he got into fake news around 2013 to highlight the extremism of the white nationalist alt-right. "The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler…

> So in this case, the fake news was created by the left to discredit the alt-right, rather than by the alt-right to promote their views.

See also: the complete HRC campaign.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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post #95

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When companies fail, consumers go somewhere else. When the government fails, we give it more money. The real problem with government is not enough spending.

Not enough or misapplied?

That's the point.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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post #101

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> "In any case, we can’t pretend that engineers are not legislators of public discourse anymore." Legislation is a rather complex sport that requires deep understanding of repercussions. I've seen rather skilled blockchain hackers talking economics, finance, politics and monetary policy. Their understanding of the current system (in terms of structure) was appalling. One needs to know the role of central banks before…

> I am afraid that your average engineer will make a pretty incompetent legislator. So let's leave legislation to legislators... :-) I disagree. Aside from a few highly political engineers and/or software devs, almost all engineers I know insist on actually looking at the facts and evaluating them to the best of their ability, regardless of their political inclinations. This is a very rare characteristic in our socie…

that's a techocracy.... unfortunately, many modern horrible regimes are techocracies since engineering/science majors are the norm outside the west.

Communist governments were super big on STEM and still implemented the same horseshit policies and woo woo beliefs.

>Most engineers also aren't inflicted with the lust for power and status like so many (most?) attorneys I know.

In the west, engineering doesn't attract those types. In other countries where its the quickest way to make buck? Hell yeah!

>I think we need more scientists, engineers, software professionals, etc. in our political system, not less

I think we need a bigger guild like organization with a lobby. Not some industry sponsored group either.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

#129

I notice that his attempts to seed fake news on the liberal side always got promptly debunked. I think this election is going to be the high water mark for fake news, its just that liberals are ahead of the curve in being skeptical about information on the Net. What this needs is a click-baitey headline to make it go viral on the Right. Something like "You won't believe how this liberal guy made $$$ scamming conserva…

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Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Going totally OT here for a sec, but you guys are awesome. Seriously. This is one of the only places I feel I can come where people are, for the most part, respectful and polite to each other. Nobody is pushing a personal agenda with religion, politics or ethics. Nobody is trying to convince you the world is flat or that aliens built the pyramids. Nobody cares if you're male/female/trans/whatever. Just a bunch of fol…

HackerNews happens to share your values and opinions on things like religion and politics. Donald Trump just won the election; did you read the opinions of people here on this happening? And while we may not be pushing a Flat World, there are plenty of conspiracy theories and ignorance on topics (eg. banks), and a fanaticism with regards to a other things (eg. Tesla) . Opposing views on these sorts of topics are smas…

HackerNews happens to share your values and opinions on things like religion and politics.

I don't believe that to be true. Firstly "Hacker News" isn't a coherent whole, and also in any politically charged discussion here there are always diametrically opposing views.

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