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We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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This story is fascinating to me. I also run a couple of these "wordpress" informational type sites, but never in my dream did I thought about publishing fake news to make money.

Too bad I was not smart enough to get into this business.

I wish he would be more honest about it. I am pretty sure he's just doing it for the money. I don't blame him. That's good money.

The moral and ethical dilemma of it is kinda murky. Is it really his fault people are so stupid?

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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This was the most interesting part for me... -------- He says he got into fake news around 2013 to highlight the extremism of the white nationalist alt-right. "The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler…

>the fake news was created by the left to discredit the alt-right I would say that this individual who was a liberal tried to do this. This isn't like a group of leftists conspiring to do (anti-)propaganda. It is pretty stupid, and his continuation of it is extremely confusing. Sorry, but a side rant to the more "entrepreneurial" startup-cats who browse here. Would you consider this fellow and others like him an entr…

Whether he meant to or not, he made a product that found its market.

I agree it was a terrible idea.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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post #18

This was the most interesting part for me... -------- He says he got into fake news around 2013 to highlight the extremism of the white nationalist alt-right. "The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler…

I don't believe his narrative for a second. He's in this for the money, period. He peddles lies for a living, and also is lying about "publicly denouncing" anything.

This exactly. He's in it purely for money. So Cal is full of shady characters like him...

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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post #34

Since the government had taken over education aren't they responsible for churning out morons who can't think for themselves and distinguish fake news from real news? Perhaps that was their goal all along.

When companies fail, consumers go somewhere else. When the government fails, we give it more money. The real problem with government is not enough spending.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

#56
Fascinating. I'm not sure I buy the left isn't just as gullible as the right. Or at least not without more proof?

I suspect you'd need a right leaning person with a similar background writing left bait fake news to have the same impact though. Write fake news about charter schools doing something bad (charter school puts LGBT students in detention) or fake churches doing bad (church in Idaho found funneling funds to Trump campaign) or fake doctors doing something the left would find atrocious but believable (medical clinic in Utah refuses to help unwed pregnant teens unless they agree to marry)

I say that because I know lots of traditionally left leaning people who believe all kinds of unscientific stuff with the same fervor as the "religious right". Auras, Rieki, Astrology, Homeopathy, Chakra, etc...

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Fascinating. I'm not sure I buy the left isn't just as gullible as the right. Or at least not without more proof? I suspect you'd need a right leaning person with a similar background writing left bait fake news to have the same impact though. Write fake news about charter schools doing something bad (charter school puts LGBT students in detention) or fake churches doing bad (church in Idaho found funneling funds to…

I think in general yes, absolutely true. Everyone across the political spectrum is just as susceptible. However, in this election, people on the left didn't need to look any further than the candidate's own words to get the rage high they were seeking. For the right though, I mean sure, you have mishandling of emails and a charitable foundation, but even with years investigation and even publicly leaked emails there wasn't a whole lot of fire, just a bunch of smoke.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Huh, weird, I actually looked into this exact same site (when it was being shared all across FB) and found something else telling -- a reused Google Adsense publisher tag ("ca-pub-1413743582782046") which I then found on a number of other sites: FireBrandLeft.com, NationalReport.net and some articles by this author http://www.liberalamerica.org/author/matt/ -- All were either owned by the same guy or he was a "journa…

Please don't post someone else's personal info. Let's not turn this into a witch hunt.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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This was the most interesting part for me... -------- He says he got into fake news around 2013 to highlight the extremism of the white nationalist alt-right. "The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler…

>the fake news was created by the left to discredit the alt-right I would say that this individual who was a liberal tried to do this. This isn't like a group of leftists conspiring to do (anti-)propaganda. It is pretty stupid, and his continuation of it is extremely confusing. Sorry, but a side rant to the more "entrepreneurial" startup-cats who browse here. Would you consider this fellow and others like him an entr…

Spoiled food makes no sense indeed. However, what this guy does makes definitely business sense.

People do not care about the truth.

+ Fake news goes viral.

+ Medium tells people that the ones who passed away still love and talk to them.

+ Religion in general.

+ Advertisements about medicines with fake doctors.

+ Advertisements in general.

+ Gossip.

+ Sensationalized scientific breakthroughs.

And then there is a lot not true, but it is at least within a context clear that it is not true, like fairy tales and literature. All the other examples are however disinformation and people doing business using it.

Re: We Tracked Down a Fake-News Creator in the Suburbs

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Fascinating. I'm not sure I buy the left isn't just as gullible as the right. Or at least not without more proof? I suspect you'd need a right leaning person with a similar background writing left bait fake news to have the same impact though. Write fake news about charter schools doing something bad (charter school puts LGBT students in detention) or fake churches doing bad (church in Idaho found funneling funds to…

It seems to me that during this election the right got tangled up in many more fake news stories than the left.

One factor is probably that the majority of newspapers (both left and right leaning) endorsed Hillary. If you wanted news that confirmed your decision to vote for Trump, you turned to alternative "news" media. Those were more likely to run fake news.

Another factor is that Trump was actively encouraging his supporters to reject traditional media and was promoting conspiracy theories himself.

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