Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
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Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#2Looks like it is going to happen. The fundraising is getting close to its goal and it is over 1.9m, (it was 1.7 just 30 mins ago).
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#3To bring this more in line with HackerNews usual content, what do you guys think the chances are that the voting machines will actually show a significant discrepancy from the paper receipts? Will this recount actually involve an audit of the voting machine software at all?
I have my doubts the outcome will be significantly changed, but I'd love it if the process involved an auditing of the voting machines, just from a curiosity standpoint...
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#4What is this data referenced in the article?
FTA: With your help, are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania-- three states where the data suggests significant discrepancies in vote totals," the page reads.
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#5To bring this more in line with HackerNews usual content, what do you guys think the chances are that the voting machines will actually show a significant discrepancy from the paper receipts? Will this recount actually involve an audit of the voting machine software at all? I have my doubts the outcome will be significantly changed, but I'd love it if the process involved an auditing of the voting machines, just from…
I would suggest it be checked, but not expect to find anything depending on the model. It'd look for zeroed out blocks, blocks containing data from other blocks or blocks containing random data where there should be none because this is how I'd erase traces of malware myself. Also look for directories with suspicious deleted entries (because I almost forgot I'd need to rewrite those too to erase any fingerprints).
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#6What is this data referenced in the article? FTA: With your help, are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania-- three states where the data suggests significant discrepancies in vote totals," the page reads.
> The scientists, among them J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, told the Clinton campaign they believe there is a questionable trend of Clinton performing worse in counties that relied on electronic voting machines compared to paper ballots and optical scanners
Source: Computer scientists urge Clinton campaign to challenge election results
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-chall...
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
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Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#8What is this data referenced in the article? FTA: With your help, are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania-- three states where the data suggests significant discrepancies in vote totals," the page reads.
I believe the original article was here, but poorly substantiated: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-...
But Alex Halderman (the professor mentioned) posted a clarification, saying: "Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked. But I don’t believe that either one of these seemingly unlikely explanations is overwhelmingly more likely than the other. " https://medium.com/@jhalderm/want-to-know-if-the-election-wa...
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#9"Jill Stein is the friend who ruins your wedding but really shows up for you during the divorce."
Re: Jill Stein to file for recount in three states
#10I think if there's reason to believe that votes were miscounted or there was fraud, there should be a recount.
But I can't help but notice that the media seemed to hammer Trump about the possibility of not accepting the results of the election. I strongly suspect if he were the one demanding a recount it would be treated very differently. It's disappointing that our society so obviously switches its standards based on someone's in-group or out-group status.