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Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Be sure to also screencap the hundreds of statements made against males in order to keep your perspective accurate.

Please link a few of these hundreds of statements made against males on HN in order to provide accurate evidence for your claim.

You can do the work for yourself and search HN. I'm not going to sift through it all. If you're actually interested in knowing, take a few minutes.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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> Female vervet monkeys manipulate males into fighting battles by lavishing attention on brave soldiers while giving noncombatants the cold shoulder, researchers said on Wednesday. Title is basically the first sentence of the article.

Is this really manipulation or is it just sexual selection for bravery/aggression/dominance? Are the female monkeys being disingenuous with their attentions or are they sincere? When I read some of the criteria for manipulation on Wikipedia [0] it seems to me like a pretty high bar to show these sorts of behaviours in monkeys. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation

Or could the females just be tending to wounds suffered by the most aggressive monkeys?

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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If you have a problem with the post, state what it is. Bashing HN for whatever "hive" you see it containing is baiting.

It's a factual statement, not baiting, to observe that her comment was [flagged] instantly for containing a passing "downvoting" remark, while the original comment is still one of the highest voted comments in this thread. This confirms that, indeed, the HN audience does not see any serious problems with the statement: "Females have evolved to extract resources from males.", which is exemplified by your request to st…

The HN audience likely sees a number of potential readings in context and is interested in which particular one you and GP have chosen to reify. It's unlikely (as shown by negative comments) that the community approves or agrees with all of them.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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I'd be very interested in your explanation of the joke. Please elaborate in as much detail as you can.

The joke is we're primates too, and human females do this all of the time, you can see this in the motif of two heros(one "good" and the other "bad") fighting for a female, "golddigger" being most of the time attributed to the female, to the psychological game called "Rapo" where a female entices a particular male's attention so that another male would fight the first male, and so an and so on. The joke is believing…

You don't have to believe all women are "wonderful" in order to find distasteful the notion that women evolved to manipulate men.

Why not "men evolved to be dumb as rocks on the topic of what they put their penises into?" Equally applicable and evidence backed, no? Equally irrelevant to the topic at hand?

But instead men are simultaneously superior and somehow at the mercy of these "manipulative women."

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Please link a few of these hundreds of statements made against males on HN in order to provide accurate evidence for your claim.

You can do the work for yourself and search HN. I'm not going to sift through it all. If you're actually interested in knowing, take a few minutes.

You do it. You're the one making the claim. I've been on HN like 8 years and I'm wondering what you mean too.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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How do you mean "restricted to humans"? What exact cases do you have in mind?

What the hell is going on here? Why are you being downvoted for politely asking for clarification?

Because the question is extremely stupid, he should take an extra 10 seconds and it should be obvious

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

#77

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Please link a few of these hundreds of statements made against males on HN in order to provide accurate evidence for your claim.

You can do the work for yourself and search HN. I'm not going to sift through it all. If you're actually interested in knowing, take a few minutes.

I think the vernacular is "It's not my job to educate you"

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Males have evolved to extract resources from the environment. Females have evolved to extract resources from males.

Hahaha, you triggered some feminists and sensitive political correctness people. And here I thought Hackernews had become one of those disgusting safe spaces where you cannot say anything that could possibly offend a human on planet earth.

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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Please link a few of these hundreds of statements made against males on HN in order to provide accurate evidence for your claim.

You can do the work for yourself and search HN. I'm not going to sift through it all. If you're actually interested in knowing, take a few minutes.

I guess you don't feel that strongly about the matter. Why bother posting then?

Re: Female monkeys use wile to rally troops

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I think this is a reductionist point of view. There are bazillions of cases in which is not true. Female lions for example.

I think he means restricted to humans. In the animal kingdom you have uncommon scenarios such as seahorses where the male caries the fertilized eggs or spiders where many times the male is just eaten by the female.

If he means that human females evolved to extract resources from males it is also reductionist. Females were not hunters, but they were harvesters and growers. I think he is implying that females could not get resources because they took care of the offspring and the male got them. This is also wrong, evidence of early human settlements point that females took care of the offspring while harvesting and growing crops.
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