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Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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Wow. How can I set a filter so that all email marked as spam by gmail is automatically forwarded to your service?

Probably don't do that, I'm not sure I can handle that much spam. Mailgun would begin charging for that much email, for one (I'm on their free tier now).

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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It actually has a random delay of 1-8 hours, which shows in the timestamp. It only sends the first email right away, because it presumably took you some time to forward it to Spamnesty.

What are you using for the event management? I wonder if using celery and rabbitmq or redis as the queue would help simplify things. With it, you just schedule asynchronous tasks in the future ... you don't have to manage the event queue.

The box these are running on is already pretty full (it's where I keep all my side-projects, and it's got around eight running on it now), so I'm trying to keep it lean. Features definitely get cut on a cost/effectiveness ratio.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#173

I'm guessing the emails this generates will become flagged as spam themselves. Do spammers use spam filters too or would that prevent them from getting replies?

Spam filters could do very little, because it's almost impossible to tell whether a conversation was run by a bot - and it's outright impossible to do so for a single response. However, you raise an interesting point: blacklists could reasonably be put into place. I'll make a merge request to use Spintax.

If you do, I would definitely be interested in that, Spintax seems like a very easy way to add some variation.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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It's a big liability because call recording is illegal in many circumstances.

I don't buy that argument. What liability would they have when I choose to do something? They could get around it the same way Toyota limits their liability from me using the touch screen while I drive - pop up a message saying when and how the feature should be used.

The difference is that fiddling with a screen is a traffic ticket and potential accident where you are at fault for being inattentive.

For call recording, the phone maker is potentially facilitating a felony. It's really complex. Does the phone stop recording when you cross state lines? Does it allow covert recording?

If I'm from California recording a call in DC on vacation and accidentally enter Maryland and get arrested, I'm suing the company.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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Would be awesome if it prompted them for some proof of work like a sample of what X would look like on my website :)

Good idea, let me add a response like that! EDIT: Added.

nice, I'll keep an eye out for some results :)

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#176

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I have a few domains you could borrow? I can at the least offer you 5 domains for half a year, shoot me an email if you're interested.

I've now read so much spam, I can't help but see it everywhere! ;-)

You too can be the proud borrower of 5 domains! Just shoot me an email at cryptarch+employee-us-bigcorp-com@gmail.com.

jk

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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I don't know if this is why, but there are a bunch of laws and stuff about what you can and can't do on a telephone. For example, many states have limitations on who can legally record a phone conversation, with or without various forms of consent. Maybe phone manufacturers don't want to facilitate easily breaking those confusing laws.

They don't seem to mind people using the phone when they drive and that's also illegal in many jurisdictions.

They do mind, there just isn't a clear cut of a solution they can force someone to put into code. You can't reliably detect if the phone is being used by the driver or by a passenger.

Without being able to make that distinction, it's nearly impossible to force phone software makers to write rules preventing "illegal" phone use in situations where it is illegal.

Instead, they punish using verifiable methods such as direct observation (cop sees you doing it).

The situation may be similar for recording calls (I'm not familiar with exact laws in this area), but I'm assuming there are also privacy restrictions in calling which lead to the software restrictions.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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It has something to do with (the move to) Cloudflare. Refresh once or twice, it will load. https://www.timetaco.com/jaspsa/

It turns out that some DNS servers cached the old nameservers and are now failing to resolve those. It's unfortunate, but all we can do is wait for the cache to expire :(

Did you forget step 4 from https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/run-server.html#move-zone ?

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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Hello Stavros, I'm not sure I understand. Could you go into more detail? *In all seriousness though (lol): You could have different types of personalities, depending on the email address of the person who doesn't want the spam. Like someone pretending mnesty.com is their work address but is still treating it like a personal message. That way the spammer will disregard the fact that the reply email isn't the same as t…

It's too hard to write generalities, I'm afraid. You can only write about 10 different sentences before you start to repeat yourself (or at least I can't do it). Feel free to send me sentences for me to add!

What you really need to take this to the next level is to be able to crowd source some content. Maybe check if you have a response that you think will work and that you haven't used yet and if not ask a pool of users for suggestions. You could use the fork suggestion above to do some testing among the proposed responses.
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