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Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the government you need to worry about, it's independent malicious actors as well. Video or audio recordings from your devices could be used to blackmail you unless you're very, very careful what you do or say at all times such devices are around. With regards to the government, while you may not be doing anything illegal now, it will be illegal when they outlaw it.

In the US, ex post facto laws cannot be made.

But parallel construction is still a thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/...

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the government you need to worry about, it's independent malicious actors as well. Video or audio recordings from your devices could be used to blackmail you unless you're very, very careful what you do or say at all times such devices are around. With regards to the government, while you may not be doing anything illegal now, it will be illegal when they outlaw it.

In the US, ex post facto laws cannot be made.

That's nice. But if you decide to run for high office 30 years from now it will become known that drew pony porn in college and never really stopped. That's the meaning of kompromat.

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the government you need to worry about, it's independent malicious actors as well. Video or audio recordings from your devices could be used to blackmail you unless you're very, very careful what you do or say at all times such devices are around. With regards to the government, while you may not be doing anything illegal now, it will be illegal when they outlaw it.

In the US, ex post facto laws cannot be made.

> In the US, ex post facto laws cannot be made.

That fact has been so inconvenient for the government that the entire system has been redesigned to thwart it. Can't prove Al Capone is a mobster? Prosecute for tax evasion.

Keep passing broad overlapping laws and they can charge anyone with something. Then they don't have to change the law, only who they decide to prosecute.

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would require an amendment to the US Constitution, which is an incredibly high bar.

That bar seems a lot lower in the last few weeks.

Constitutional amdendments require ratification by 3/4 of states. 20/50 states voted for Clinton. That is still quite a high bar.

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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post #15

Serious question: I understand the argument against the classic "why should I care if someone records my conversations? I don't do anything illegal.", being that once the government starts recording everything you say the freedom of being able to say anything negative against them goes away knowing they could be listening. That said, why should I, a boring law abiding citizen, go around disabling my hardware and cove…

It's not just the government you need to worry about, it's independent malicious actors as well. Video or audio recordings from your devices could be used to blackmail you unless you're very, very careful what you do or say at all times such devices are around. With regards to the government, while you may not be doing anything illegal now, it will be illegal when they outlaw it.

It's technology that enables the problem, not the actors. Technology can advance a position on a matter well ahead of anyone else at that moment, giving the actor temporary power over others. While most won't use this for their own gain, some will and do. If we want to stop this problem, we're going to need a way to slow technology down, at least when interacting with itself.

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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post #30

paper: http://cyber.bgu.ac.il/advanced-cyber/system/files/SPEAKE%28... video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez3o8aIZCDM "It’s no surprise that earbuds can function as microphones in a pinch [...] But the researchers took that hack a step further. Their malware [...] silently “retask” the computer’s output channel as an input channel, allowing the malware to record audio even when the headphones remain connected int…

Could they also be repurposed for electroencephalogy?

Maybe. Perhaps it would be safest to also wrap them in tinfoil?

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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Serious question: I understand the argument against the classic "why should I care if someone records my conversations? I don't do anything illegal.", being that once the government starts recording everything you say the freedom of being able to say anything negative against them goes away knowing they could be listening. That said, why should I, a boring law abiding citizen, go around disabling my hardware and cove…

A "boring law abiding citizen" might become a very interesting target once he/she becomes a witness of a crime or a very immoral action.

When 10% of citizens are too afraid to speak out about something, maybe democracy can be still preserved. When it's 90%... ?

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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Serious question: I understand the argument against the classic "why should I care if someone records my conversations? I don't do anything illegal.", being that once the government starts recording everything you say the freedom of being able to say anything negative against them goes away knowing they could be listening. That said, why should I, a boring law abiding citizen, go around disabling my hardware and cove…

Governments change. Many people argued the same when pre-nazi Germany decided to register peoples religion. Granted that's an extreme example (or perhaps not considering the rise of the alt-right) but what's considered legally & morally ok can change quickly, for good or for bad.

Re: Headphones can be hijacked to surreptitiously record audio

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Would be cool if Purism or similar companies had a nice big hardware switch that controlled access to any recording equipment.

A camera/mic switch should be required by law on every laptop and phone.

Please don tell me a 5c switch is too expensive for a $300 phone.

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