Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

stavros.io

91–100 of 188 posts

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#91

See also, The AI that wastes telemarketers time https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13013327 And this script that plays what sounds like an old man losing his memory: https://www.reddit.com/r/itslenny/

How can I get Lenny? :) That is awesome.

These is how to use it: Transfer, conference, or forward your telemarketing calls to 1-347-514-7296

Can't wait to try this out.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#92

See also, The AI that wastes telemarketers time https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13013327 And this script that plays what sounds like an old man losing his memory: https://www.reddit.com/r/itslenny/

The first link leads to this page, perhaps you meant that one – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11043960

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#93
post #49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also suggest giving the spammers more intense work to do. Like a pdf form for new suppliers that they have to download, fill out, sign, scan back in, and return. Or maybe submit to a form page with a horribly difficult captcha.

Submit a form page with an impossible captcha.

This kept me amused for several minutes: https://www.google.com/search?q=impossible+captcha&tbm=isch

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It even managed to get a discount!

Would be awesome if it prompted them for some proof of work like a sample of what X would look like on my website :)

Good idea, let me add a response like that!

EDIT: Added.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#95

I'm guessing the emails this generates will become flagged as spam themselves. Do spammers use spam filters too or would that prevent them from getting replies?

I wonder if one could circumvent this by making their initial response appear to come from another spammer to get 2 spammers talking to each other.

It would also avoid problems with canned responses failing the Turing test.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#96
post #49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also suggest giving the spammers more intense work to do. Like a pdf form for new suppliers that they have to download, fill out, sign, scan back in, and return. Or maybe submit to a form page with a horribly difficult captcha.

Submit a form page with an impossible captcha.

But make the impossible captcha appears after they filled all the form.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#97
post #15

What happened to hashcash proposals to email protocols?

The problem with hashcash for email is that there's no way for the sender and receiver to negotiate the amount of work to be proved, so they must correctly guess how much to perform/require. The most sensible requirement to guess is zero, since all existing email is sent without any proof of work, and the value of interoperability is higher than blocking spam. After all, if you're willing to lose interoperability, yo…

Instead of hashcash why haven't we solved the problem by just attaching real money to every email? The convention would be that you "accept" the payment only if it is spam. $1 gets you into the inbox. If it isn't spam then after 48 hours the token just expires and the sender keeps their dollar.

I assume the money transfer can be solved today using Bitcoin, and it wouldn't be a terribly complicated protocol.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#98

See also, The AI that wastes telemarketers time https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13013327 And this script that plays what sounds like an old man losing his memory: https://www.reddit.com/r/itslenny/

How can I get Lenny? :) That is awesome. These is how to use it: Transfer, conference, or forward your telemarketing calls to 1-347-514-7296 Can't wait to try this out.

Doesn't work on cell phones.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has various categories of replies, which right now you can specify when you forward a message (it sends you a management URL back). Later on, when I have enough data, I'll do some simple ML to have it pick a most likely category as a default. Each category comes with its own set of responses, but you can see where the category changed because the bot will start talking about a product and then switch to talking ab…

It'd be more effective if it didn't re-use responses later in the chain (unless it'd totally run out of alternatives). Although, arguably, it's funnier when the spammers/scammers do continue to find new ways to reply to the same couple of questions.

To improve negotiations the bot should extract money amounts from the mail and start negotiating (and never stop).
Post reply on HN