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Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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I have never understood what were the goals of these messages. People saying they have a fund of millions. Is everything arranged for me to send money to them? Simpĺe as that?

One of the goals is to find someone who'll fall for such a scheme. If it was more plausible, they'd waste time on someone who'd end up not pulling the trigger when they realized it was too likely to be a scam.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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post #6

Really cool. Two remarks: 1) If lots of people start using this, spammers might learn to avoid wasting time with Mnesty's CEO. Having a few more fake companies would help. 2) The bot could probably be made a lot smarter with some natural language processing. But it seems to fill its purpose pretty well already. I think this just shows how desperate for leads spammers are.

1) Yeah, there's support for multiple domains, but I have no domains right now :) If anyone wants to donate one, please open an issue! 2) Exactly, they're so desperate for leads that they will spend lots of time chasing someone who doesn't appear to make lots of sense.

I have inputs.space expiring on Feb 17, do you want it?

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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post #11
post #7

I have never understood what were the goals of these messages. People saying they have a fund of millions. Is everything arranged for me to send money to them? Simpĺe as that?

One of the goals is to find someone who'll fall for such a scheme. If it was more plausible, they'd waste time on someone who'd end up not pulling the trigger when they realized it was too likely to be a scam.

Wow. That makes perfect sense.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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post #7

I have never understood what were the goals of these messages. People saying they have a fund of millions. Is everything arranged for me to send money to them? Simpĺe as that?

Basically, they spammer is hoping to milk you for "fees" that they will say are necessary in order to free up/transfer the money that they have waiting for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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post #12
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Yeah, there's support for multiple domains, but I have no domains right now :) If anyone wants to donate one, please open an issue! 2) Exactly, they're so desperate for leads that they will spend lots of time chasing someone who doesn't appear to make lots of sense.

I have inputs.space expiring on Feb 17, do you want it?

I was going to say yes, but then I realized it needs a bunch of MX/etc settings on your end, so let me streamline the process a bit more (and possibly add something to the README). Thanks for the offer!

EDIT: Opened https://gitlab.com/stavros/Spamnesty/issues/7 to track this.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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post #11
post #7

I have never understood what were the goals of these messages. People saying they have a fund of millions. Is everything arranged for me to send money to them? Simpĺe as that?

One of the goals is to find someone who'll fall for such a scheme. If it was more plausible, they'd waste time on someone who'd end up not pulling the trigger when they realized it was too likely to be a scam.

Once spammers start using bots to carry conversation, this might change. If bots can handle part of the communication, it probably makes sense to start planning more subtle scams.

Re: Show HN: Spamnesty: Waste spammers' time

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The problem with Spam has always been the minuscule cost of doing it. If the cost can rise above the profit, spam could become unattractive. Imagine if spam attracted a sudden swarm of bots, just as a new email addy attracts spammers now.

And bots could do pretty well there. I recently read an article (cannot find it; but it may have been even linked from here) which explained the benefit of poor grammar in the spam (i.e., they want to put off more knowledgeable users as the cost of the follow on emails is significantly higher).

El cheapo bots have pretty basic English skills which can help them fit naturally into the spam target patterns.

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