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Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by jobigoud »

fredley wrote: post #18
cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

I am very strict about work hours, and try and get the people I work with to take similar steps. I take steps to limit any possible exposure to work emails, notifications, calls from the moment I leave the office (or the work day ends), which is usually around 6pm. I don't even look at anything until 9am the next day. This has probably annoyed some people along the way, but I don't care, my time is more important to…

I used to do that. Made a point to switch mindset when I was crossing out the door of the building and immediately started thinking about my personal projects.

It's become much more difficult now that I work remotely and use a single place and computer for both work and personal.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by Sharlin »

Mithaldu wrote: post #31
cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

There's actually a nice feature regarding that in Google Inbox. It has adopted the approach first featured in Opera 12's mail client: Have all mail pre-filtered into categories with a bayesian (or similar) filter trained by the user themselves. What this means in practice is that you have a bunch of categories for emails that are not urgent, like purchase receipts, ads, mailing lists, etc. and you teach inbox which o…

> The result of this is that your phone acts like a secretary on your emails.

And that's exactly what workplace electronics is supposed to be about, really. We were promised a future where computers would lessen our workload and make human secretaries redundant. Well, human secretaries were made redundant but for the most part computers did not replace them.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by amiga-workbench »

cyberferret wrote: post #7

Way back nearly two decades ago, I set up an early version of ActiveSync on my Palm Treo device. I noticed there was an option in the Treo email settings to disable real time syncing between certain times (after office hours), but I was SO excited about getting and responding to real time emails on my little phone device that I thought "Who the HECK would want to stop this wonderful flow of emails". Later when I upgr…

My Nokia N9 has this feature too, I can set varying sync timeframes on each mail account.

I couldn't live without it.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by coldnebo »

ekianjo wrote: post #20

Nintendo is kind of following the same product positioning for their new Switch console: it's not "work anywhere, all the time", it's "play anywhere, all the time": game while you are going for a walk with your dog. Game when you are in public transports. Game when you meet your friends. Game at night. Game during the day. Game all the time. This kind of fight for attention is getting really tiring.

There is no Balance and no Art.

Consider part of the reason work takes so long is the constant stream of updates. Updates have killed more than one conference presentation.

Yet, when companies are faced with evidence that people don't like updates, they force more, bigger, faster. Why don't they invest in fewer, more meaningful, careful updates?

Treasure the customer's device as you would their home.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by phillc73 »

prof_hobart wrote: post #42
phillc73 wrote: post #23

I have conflicting feelings about this article. Firstly, I don't by choice use any Microsoft products, so this is not a defence of that company. Secondly, I also fully agree that work can wait and my employer should not be intruding on my personal time, outside of office hours. However, I have a passion for something and I have a young family. Between my paid work commitments and the fabulous time I spend with my fam…

I agree. The critical question isn't "should I be attending a meeting when I'm walking in the countryside?". It's "what's the alternative?" If it's that you can be walking in the countryside when you would previously have had to come into the office for a meeting, then that's great. If, on the other hand, it's that you've now got no excuse for not working in times you would previously have been resting, then that's p…

I must admit I didn't watch the new advert video due to the "do not track" warning.

"This embedded content is from a site that does not comply with the Do Not Track (DNT) setting now enabled on your browser.

Please note, if you click through and view it anyway, you may be tracked by the website hosting the embed."

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by tlrobinson »

DHH is coming from the "10 hour work week" perspective, which I'm sure many people would be envious of, but it's not a reality most people live in.

That said, I do think mobile device usage outside of the office is more likely to supplement rather than replace time in the office.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by Mithaldu »

Sharlin wrote: post #72
Mithaldu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's actually a nice feature regarding that in Google Inbox. It has adopted the approach first featured in Opera 12's mail client: Have all mail pre-filtered into categories with a bayesian (or similar) filter trained by the user themselves. What this means in practice is that you have a bunch of categories for emails that are not urgent, like purchase receipts, ads, mailing lists, etc. and you teach inbox which o…

> The result of this is that your phone acts like a secretary on your emails. And that's exactly what workplace electronics is supposed to be about, really. We were promised a future where computers would lessen our workload and make human secretaries redundant. Well, human secretaries were made redundant but for the most part computers did not replace them.

To be honest, i've been living that future on my desktop with Opera M2 since roughly 2001. Aside from Inbox no other email client i know has ever replicated this feature.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by midgetjones »

orly_bookz wrote: post #67
midgetjones wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the very least, it's ridiculous to call it a 'sweatshop'. The kid making DHH's shoes would probably love to work for Marvel. Yes, I am fighting hyperbole with hyperbole.

I get your hyperbole but simply as a matter of course I'm gonna have to throw a flag: that's the fallacy of relative privation.

Thanks! I really need to read up on my fallacies.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by aninhumer »

orly_bookz wrote: post #67
midgetjones wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the very least, it's ridiculous to call it a 'sweatshop'. The kid making DHH's shoes would probably love to work for Marvel. Yes, I am fighting hyperbole with hyperbole.

I get your hyperbole but simply as a matter of course I'm gonna have to throw a flag: that's the fallacy of relative privation.

It's not the fallacy of relative privation if the article already made the comparison to sweatshops. It's just pointing out an inaccurate (and arguably tasteless) analogy.

Re: Microsoft reboots war on sleep

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Post by Spooky23 »

Mithaldu wrote: post #58
pfortuny wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine you miss your child's goal just because you were checking your oh-so-important Excel spreadsheet. Addiction, as you say. Lack of freedom (as any addiction is). Plain stupid.

Is that better or worse than if you miss it because your boss wouldn't let you go at all? I've had friends from the USA eat the cost of a plane ticket because their supervisor told them they'd get time off for a visit to Germany, but then got dunked on two weeks before the flight by their supervisor's supervisor, precisely because they wouldn't have been able to react to emergencies in Germany, and this entirely due…

That's incredible. I'm happy to be fortunate enough to not work in places like that and to have to ability to tell someone like that to go fuck themselves.
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