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What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by thatswrong0 »

linkregister wrote: post #164
dood wrote: post #6

Are people in America seriously getting offers of $120k with no degree, no experience, and not even a side-project? That is mind-blowing. In London, probably the biggest/richest market outside of USA, that sort of salary is beyond what most experienced developers get, even some very good ones. I must be missing something here (some sort of bubble?) because I can't see how businesses can be profitable paying those sor…

The median for software development in San Francisco is about $120k [1]; this means that even experienced developers are getting paid around this amount. Sort by the highest salary and you'll see Twitter, Dropbox, etc. It looks like Square starts at about 100k for a new grad (uni degree). Seems high but it's more credible than $120k for a bootcamp grad. Remember that median rent for a 1 bedroom in a non-trendy area i…

Most people I know have roommates though and pay between $1300 and $2000/month, ranging from decent Mission apartments to a nice Castro house. For $2900 a month you can easily live in a luxury two bedroom apartment.

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by paulddraper »

GrumpyYoungMan wrote: post #160
Rainymood wrote: post #115

On a related tangent, this is why it is so important to have a so called "Emergency fund"! An emergency fund is a little bit of money (often 1-6x average monthly expenses) such that if you get canned you can survive for 1-6 months without having to work so you can focus on applying for jobs and getting a new job without having to stress when your next bill is due. I agree that 6 months living expenses is on the high…

> 6 months living expenses is on the high side Not at all. Whatever causes the emergency is likely to come with unexpected costs of its own, so 6 months salary is more of a minimum in my opinion.

Minimum compared to what though? Saving at 20%, building 6 months of reserves takes 2.5 years. Do you not live until that time?

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by thesimpsons1022 »

Sorry_Rum_Ham wrote: post #143
dmitrygr wrote: post #110

> A study by Triplebyte has found that bootcamp grads are weaker in these areas than computer science grads. Really?! Who'da thunk? > At Hack Reactor, we’re trained to mask our inexperience. In our personal narratives, we purposely omit our bootcamp education. Hm... > Why? Otherwise, companies automatically categorize us into junior developer roles or tag us as “not enough experience.” And you think that after a few…

I mean, call it what you will, but a lot of these people are getting offers, man. Good ones. Which is more than I can say for myself with my comp sci degree and two years experience. Although my location is likely to blame for that.

to be fair many of them go to berkeley...

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Post by danieltillett »

Rainymood wrote: post #115

On a related tangent, this is why it is so important to have a so called "Emergency fund"! An emergency fund is a little bit of money (often 1-6x average monthly expenses) such that if you get canned you can survive for 1-6 months without having to work so you can focus on applying for jobs and getting a new job without having to stress when your next bill is due. I agree that 6 months living expenses is on the high…

I don't know how people can sleep at night not having an emergency fund. I have a couple of time got close to running this out when I was a poor student and I found it incredibly stressful.

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Post by a-saleh »

paulddraper wrote: post #182
GrumpyYoungMan wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 6 months living expenses is on the high side Not at all. Whatever causes the emergency is likely to come with unexpected costs of its own, so 6 months salary is more of a minimum in my opinion.

Minimum compared to what though? Saving at 20%, building 6 months of reserves takes 2.5 years. Do you not live until that time?

In my case, I was trying to save between 40 and 50 % untill I hit the reserve. After that, I relaxed it to 10-20 %.

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Post by ptmcc »

paulddraper wrote: post #182
GrumpyYoungMan wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 6 months living expenses is on the high side Not at all. Whatever causes the emergency is likely to come with unexpected costs of its own, so 6 months salary is more of a minimum in my opinion.

Minimum compared to what though? Saving at 20%, building 6 months of reserves takes 2.5 years. Do you not live until that time?

You live on the other 80%.

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by Humdeee »

zengid wrote: post #104

Is anyone else bothered by the code at the beginning of this article? Simply returning the expression would have had the same effect, ie: function getDevJob(studying, hardWork, luck){ return studying && hardWork && luck; } I know that it might not make the code readable to novice javaScripters, but it bothers me anyway..

I'm more bothered because it's becoming "so clever" to put everyday life activities into a function. I saw code written in chalk on a sidewalk billboard at the door of a coffee shop yesterday. No, I will not reciprocate that cringe and verbally call a function to order my coffee because the barista learned Hello World the previous night.

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by thesimpsons1022 »

Rainymood wrote: post #115

On a related tangent, this is why it is so important to have a so called "Emergency fund"! An emergency fund is a little bit of money (often 1-6x average monthly expenses) such that if you get canned you can survive for 1-6 months without having to work so you can focus on applying for jobs and getting a new job without having to stress when your next bill is due. I agree that 6 months living expenses is on the high…

or just have your parents pay for it.

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by sushid »

thatswrong0 wrote: post #181
linkregister wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The median for software development in San Francisco is about $120k [1]; this means that even experienced developers are getting paid around this amount. Sort by the highest salary and you'll see Twitter, Dropbox, etc. It looks like Square starts at about 100k for a new grad (uni degree). Seems high but it's more credible than $120k for a bootcamp grad. Remember that median rent for a 1 bedroom in a non-trendy area i…

Most people I know have roommates though and pay between $1300 and $2000/month, ranging from decent Mission apartments to a nice Castro house. For $2900 a month you can easily live in a luxury two bedroom apartment.

The first part sounds about right. The second part is definitely wrong. For $2900 you won't be able to afford even a 1BR (unless we're talking about place far out from the main parts of the city).

For instance, places around me in SoMa have 2BRs listed above $4,500.

Re: What I learned from spending 3 months applying to jobs after a coding bootcamp

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Post by paulddraper »

ptmcc wrote: post #186
paulddraper wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minimum compared to what though? Saving at 20%, building 6 months of reserves takes 2.5 years. Do you not live until that time?

You live on the other 80%.

By "live", I mean "do the optional parts of life", like vacation, date, spend money on hobbies, rent a place other than the cardboard box under the bridge, etc.

The problem with an absolute is its absoluteness.

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