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Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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We tried. Oh we tried. But the mobile apps being not native made the mobile usage drop like a rock compared to Slack, leading to the fact that it was harder to reach people than via the old Slack. When I saw that Rocket.Chat also used non-native clients leading to similar complaints, we just dropped the whole project and moved back to Slack.

That's a blessing in disguise, can avoid taking work with you everywhere you go.

I'm sure we all understand what you're trying to say here, but this is the classic "it's not a bug, it's a feature!" and doesn't quite roll with everyone's use-case.

I have a work phone that I take with me when I am on-call or on a customer site. Slack (or whatever we decide to use) absolutely has to work here.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

Hm, no. I'm living with a friend who also works from home, so I get a bit "kitchen-talk" every day with him. Also, one of my girlfrieds is working shifts, so this gives me the opportunity to work from her place, when she works late, so we can still see us and talk a bit. The other one works near her flat, so when I work from there, we can go to lunch together.

"one of my girlfrieds"

How many girlfriends do you have? ;)

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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it is definitely great to meet in person, to shake hands, grab a coffee together, etc. but what is the value, professionally speaking? Years of socialization training stemming from childhood to gauge whether it's really worth interrupting people. I do enjoy the opportunity to do remote work, but even in the office, I'm finding an unstated expectation that I should always have a second pair of eyes on my slack notific…

Yeah, this is why I still prefer IRC over Slack and most other team chat systems. I hear a lot of people suggest them because of missing messages with IRC, but I actually think the missing messages is a feature. A ping on IRC to someone that isn't there is a bit like walking by someone's office and noticing that they aren't there.

I don't want my phone to notify me immediately every time a team chat message goes through. Direct hangouts messages have a higher "weight" and are useful sometimes, too, though.

Basically, this is just a cultural problem that needs to be worked out. Sort of like the (usually) understood idea that you shouldn't disturb a person wearing headphones and working.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Hm, no. I'm living with a friend who also works from home, so I get a bit "kitchen-talk" every day with him. Also, one of my girlfrieds is working shifts, so this gives me the opportunity to work from her place, when she works late, so we can still see us and talk a bit. The other one works near her flat, so when I work from there, we can go to lunch together.

"one of my girlfrieds" How many girlfriends do you have? ;)

All of them :P

Two at the moment and I don't know how I could do it, if I had to be in office 40h a week.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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it is definitely great to meet in person, to shake hands, grab a coffee together, etc. but what is the value, professionally speaking? Years of socialization training stemming from childhood to gauge whether it's really worth interrupting people. I do enjoy the opportunity to do remote work, but even in the office, I'm finding an unstated expectation that I should always have a second pair of eyes on my slack notific…

I work at a 100% remote office. We don't use Slack, or really anything other than Google hangouts. It is pretty easy to just say "Got a sec?", as you would in person. Then type, call, share screens, whatever, when you both have a moment. It may seem different on the surface, but it really is the exact same communication as you would have in person... you just need to ask. And much of the time, real-time responses are…

I like hangouts because the chat is indexed for search within gmail. So I don't need to remember whether I was chatting or emailing about a topic.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Wish I enjoyed working remotely, but it drove me insane when I did it for 8 months. I was ignored, time zone differences sucked, actually need human interaction, and I needed guidance as a junior. It's 100% a culture thing, and if I ever do it again, then I'll make sure to choose a company which embraces remote work.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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All of them :P Two at the moment and I don't know how I could do it, if I had to be in office 40h a week.

Are either of the relationships long distance?

No.

Both of them live 20-bike-minutes away from me.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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I moved to a cheaper city. I miss the big city. Going to in fact move back, even though I am remote. The ?? $1k I saved per month is not worth all the good stuff I lost from the city (but it depends what you value)

Sure, but there are many big citys with varying rent prices. For example, Berlin is much cheaper than Munich. I'd never move to the coutryside again. I'm just no small-town guy.

I moved from Chicago (One of the cheaper "big cities" that actually has jobs), to a medium sized city (population: 250k).

I got almost double the house size, and 1/2 of grass to call my own... but now I can't walk anywhere, and life is too short to spend it on a mower. Plus I now spend a ton to take care of my house/yard, and I need a car, etc. etc.

Big city life is the way to go ;)

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