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Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by shanemhansen »

briandear wrote: post #27
huhtenberg wrote: post #3

> Our only office is Slack. You mistyped Mattermost :) Seriously, no reason to share all your company inner workings with a random 3rd party when it takes literally 5 minutes to set up a completely private (and also free!) clone of the same.

I might argue that Slack has no interest in anyone's inner workings. I've been at companies building relatively uninteresting products that treated Github like it was the same as emailing source code and server logins to the competition. I could be wrong, but I have never heard of a single instance of a company on Github having code stolen because it was on Github. I have heard of many companies who have had their in…

GitHub delivered the wrong source code to people for a while. https://github.com/blog/2273-incident-report-inadvertent-pri...

I'm not bashing GitHub, but some people find more value and less risk in using git in its "native" distributed mode.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#42

Post by k__ »

michalstanko wrote: post #37
k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

Hm, no.

I'm living with a friend who also works from home, so I get a bit "kitchen-talk" every day with him.

Also, one of my girlfrieds is working shifts, so this gives me the opportunity to work from her place, when she works late, so we can still see us and talk a bit. The other one works near her flat, so when I work from there, we can go to lunch together.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#43

Post by pryelluw »

michalstanko wrote: post #37
k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

Ive been working remotely for almost the same time as you. I do miss some of the interactions but I've replaced them with connecting with other tech folk through social media and going to local meetups. Almost as good.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#44

Post by codingdave »

lr4444lr wrote: post #11

it is definitely great to meet in person, to shake hands, grab a coffee together, etc. but what is the value, professionally speaking? Years of socialization training stemming from childhood to gauge whether it's really worth interrupting people. I do enjoy the opportunity to do remote work, but even in the office, I'm finding an unstated expectation that I should always have a second pair of eyes on my slack notific…

I work at a 100% remote office. We don't use Slack, or really anything other than Google hangouts. It is pretty easy to just say "Got a sec?", as you would in person. Then type, call, share screens, whatever, when you both have a moment.

It may seem different on the surface, but it really is the exact same communication as you would have in person... you just need to ask. And much of the time, real-time responses aren't truly necessary... so you can just IM someone a question, and know they'll get back to you when they can.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by k__ »

brianwawok wrote: post #40
k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I moved to a cheaper city. I miss the big city. Going to in fact move back, even though I am remote. The ?? $1k I saved per month is not worth all the good stuff I lost from the city (but it depends what you value)

Sure, but there are many big citys with varying rent prices.

For example, Berlin is much cheaper than Munich.

I'd never move to the coutryside again. I'm just no small-town guy.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#46

Post by pryelluw »

agibsonccc wrote: post #14
kriro wrote: post #12

It's mentioned in the "myths about remote work" article that's linked but I think for startup-y kind of things social/power norms kind of force you to not work remotely for at least a decent stretch of the time. o/~ Move to SV, move to SV, move to SV sure there's some poo on the streets but...move to SV. o/~

I run a 16 person 5 timezone startup cofounded in the valley. I moved to asia from SF. The best thing about this is lack of "startup-y things". All of those things are huge distractions to getting things done. Many companies run remote fine. Schedules allow people to be home with their kids when needed, no commute over head for most. Emphasis is on self management. Communication is async. We have 1 stand up a week.

Wow 5 timezones. That's gotta be pretty tough. Can you tell more about it?

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#47

Post by k__ »

pryelluw wrote: post #43
michalstanko wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

Ive been working remotely for almost the same time as you. I do miss some of the interactions but I've replaced them with connecting with other tech folk through social media and going to local meetups. Almost as good.

Yes, Web-technology is my passion. So I do it even in my free-time.

Building app stacks, games, trying out new things, talking to people about it :)

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by k__ »

hobolord wrote: post #39
michalstanko wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

I force myself to attend as many meetups as possible. I find it beneficial to just attend and even if you have no interest in the talk, it's nice being around other people who potentially are

I tried that, but it's hard, I'm not a very social person and the meetups I attended here were not very interesting...

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#49

Post by taylorfausak »

shanemhansen wrote: post #41
briandear wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might argue that Slack has no interest in anyone's inner workings. I've been at companies building relatively uninteresting products that treated Github like it was the same as emailing source code and server logins to the competition. I could be wrong, but I have never heard of a single instance of a company on Github having code stolen because it was on Github. I have heard of many companies who have had their in…

GitHub delivered the wrong source code to people for a while. https://github.com/blog/2273-incident-report-inadvertent-pri... I'm not bashing GitHub, but some people find more value and less risk in using git in its "native" distributed mode.

I think it's a little misleading to call that "a while". The post says "156 private repositories" were affected during a "ten-minute window" representing "0.0013% of the total operations at the time".

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

#50

Post by rasur »

dep_b wrote: post #9

Working with mixed French / German teams seems to be a more interesting problem than having everybody working remote ;)

I work in/with a mixed Swiss German/German/French/Spanish/Others office department. I don't suppose it will come as much of a shock to hear that English is used in general, with smaller localised dialect outbreaks occurring regularly. Works pretty well, and as an added bonus, you slowly pick up a better understanding/confusion of a variety of languages :)
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