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Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by barhun »

curried_haskell wrote: post #18
darklajid wrote: post #16

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That invalidates your comment in so far as that the person that submitted this as news claims to have no affiliation with Microsoft. Unless you claim that the submitter is lying your whole 'Hey, nicely done by your PR department, Microsoft' argument goes down the drain.

Welcome to astroturfing 101. And they rely on people like you to keep the doubt alive. But you have to be incredibly naive to think social media manipulation isn't a core part of companies marketing strategies today.

I can barely hide the truth now, let me elucidate: I am from the department of PR, the United Nations where Bill Gates and I have been trying hard to keep it secret that some people who work for UNICEF have been seen killing babies for a while now with use of laughter which they cause by injecting hyperpepsinic and hypoacoustic polynuclear bazookas into their own asses.

https://youtu.be/PZuErXLfQlM

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by brianwawok »

oblio wrote: post #14
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #12

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And that invalidates my comment... how? Microsoft announcements appear here in a nicely-spaced way that seems to garner lots of interest and, yet, not induce fatigue. How and why this is happening is "an exercise left to the reader."

1995 - circa 2014 Action: Microsoft is hostile to Open Source movement for many years. Reaction: developers have a deep distrust of Microsoft. 2014 - current day Action: Microsoft open sources a series of core projects and starts contributing to major Open Source projects. Reaction: ???

Most devs I know not in .net are not gonna jump for this reason. It's so similar to what I can get from Python and Scala and Java... Why would I want to touch the Microsoft ecosystem?

Seems like it will take 10 or 15 years for a new round of college students to switch over.. so it has to be a very long term play.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by barhun »

alexellisuk wrote: post #19

Looking forward to an official Docker image for this. The Raspberry Pi is probably the main board we think of when people say 'ARM' - but the Pine64 and Odroid C2 are maybe better suited - being 64-bit and the Odroid having twice as much memory. What kind of .NET runs on Windows 10 IoT though (on the RPi Model 3)??

I've encountered some NuGet packages with the prefix runtime.win7-arm., so I think .NET Core has got support for Windows 10 IOT since the very beginning.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by lampantin »

barhun wrote: post #13
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #12

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And that invalidates my comment... how? Microsoft announcements appear here in a nicely-spaced way that seems to garner lots of interest and, yet, not induce fatigue. How and why this is happening is "an exercise left to the reader."

This is not an official announcement, it is not even an announcement. What the fuck are you talking about?

If people didn't downvote the comments they dislike, we could know what the f... he was talking about.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by pjmlp »

alexellisuk wrote: post #19

Looking forward to an official Docker image for this. The Raspberry Pi is probably the main board we think of when people say 'ARM' - but the Pine64 and Odroid C2 are maybe better suited - being 64-bit and the Odroid having twice as much memory. What kind of .NET runs on Windows 10 IoT though (on the RPi Model 3)??

The UWP kind.

It is the same .NET Native as on Windows 10 store.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by pjmlp »

brianwawok wrote: post #22
oblio wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1995 - circa 2014 Action: Microsoft is hostile to Open Source movement for many years. Reaction: developers have a deep distrust of Microsoft. 2014 - current day Action: Microsoft open sources a series of core projects and starts contributing to major Open Source projects. Reaction: ???

Most devs I know not in .net are not gonna jump for this reason. It's so similar to what I can get from Python and Scala and Java... Why would I want to touch the Microsoft ecosystem? Seems like it will take 10 or 15 years for a new round of college students to switch over.. so it has to be a very long term play.

Many of the current generation don't have any issues with Microsoft.

We do mostly Java and .NET projects, and enough juniors get on both stacks.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by 0xCMP »

pjmlp wrote: post #26
brianwawok wrote: post #22

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Most devs I know not in .net are not gonna jump for this reason. It's so similar to what I can get from Python and Scala and Java... Why would I want to touch the Microsoft ecosystem? Seems like it will take 10 or 15 years for a new round of college students to switch over.. so it has to be a very long term play.

Many of the current generation don't have any issues with Microsoft. We do mostly Java and .NET projects, and enough juniors get on both stacks.

Yea, inexperience with Microsoft would make them think it's okay to do that before these announcements. I agree with parent comment though, not enough to make me come back.

source: C# and .NET were the first languages I taught myself after PHP in 2007-2008.

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by Kipters »

alexellisuk wrote: post #19

Looking forward to an official Docker image for this. The Raspberry Pi is probably the main board we think of when people say 'ARM' - but the Pine64 and Odroid C2 are maybe better suited - being 64-bit and the Odroid having twice as much memory. What kind of .NET runs on Windows 10 IoT though (on the RPi Model 3)??

.NET Core + .NET Native, but that's on Windows, not Linux (.NET Core has been running on Windows ARM since Windows Phone 8)

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by tehlike »

pjmlp wrote: post #15
sequence7 wrote: post #9

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You can build Tizen apps in .Net now I imagine they're working to improve compatibility across all Tizen devices. Samsung is also now a member of the .Net foundation https://www.tizen.org/blogs/dh0922/2016/tizen-.net-developer...

Which will be the fourth reboot on the Tizen SDK stack, so I don't know if they will actually win anything with it. They already went through Meego APIs, replaced by Bada OS C++ APIs, replaced by C and Enlightenment APIs, alongside HTML5 apps. As a developer I would be weary to invest any resources in so unstable OS design.

aside from frequent platform changes, and the fact that very little amount of users use Tizen, I believe C# is a much better environment for app development. C# has much better tooling around it (remember how long it took to have a stable android studio, let alone have it in the first place)

Re: CoreCLR ARM 32-bit progress

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Post by cptskippy »

pjmlp wrote: post #15
sequence7 wrote: post #9

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You can build Tizen apps in .Net now I imagine they're working to improve compatibility across all Tizen devices. Samsung is also now a member of the .Net foundation https://www.tizen.org/blogs/dh0922/2016/tizen-.net-developer...

Which will be the fourth reboot on the Tizen SDK stack, so I don't know if they will actually win anything with it. They already went through Meego APIs, replaced by Bada OS C++ APIs, replaced by C and Enlightenment APIs, alongside HTML5 apps. As a developer I would be weary to invest any resources in so unstable OS design.

Assuming they implement the entirety of the .NET APIs then a developer would have to invest very little to get on their platform. One would hope anyways.
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