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Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by chrisan »

junke wrote: post #26
durzagott wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can set yourself to Do Not Disturb mode, which is kind of the same thing. Notifications are muted and the sender sees a 'Zzz' symbol next to your name. If someone sends you a direct message they have the option to interrupt you if it's really important.

> Notifications are muted and the sender sees a 'Zzz' symbol next to your name. That's a minor thing but 'Zzz' really sends the wrong signal to the sender: if you are not available, then you are sleeping (i.e. unproductive).

> That's a minor thing but 'Zzz' really sends the wrong signal to the sender: if you are not available, then you are sleeping (i.e. unproductive).

Working remotely, is that a bad thing? If you are unavailable due to deep coding or a need for a nap does it matter?

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by huhtenberg »

briandear wrote: post #25
huhtenberg wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As in "emoji"? A critical feature that precludes effective professional communication in work environment?

When someone says "we need to refactor the Whatever class" Rather than 10 people writing "agree" one can react and others can click the reaction similar to an upvote. That cuts down considerably on the noise so yes, I'd say it enhances professional communication.

Ah, OK. We have no need for this, so I assumed it was the emoji thing, like in other messengers.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by mercer »

artpi wrote: post #17
lr4444lr wrote: post #11

it is definitely great to meet in person, to shake hands, grab a coffee together, etc. but what is the value, professionally speaking? Years of socialization training stemming from childhood to gauge whether it's really worth interrupting people. I do enjoy the opportunity to do remote work, but even in the office, I'm finding an unstated expectation that I should always have a second pair of eyes on my slack notific…

Also, make sure that this "expectation" to respond to pings immediately isn't in your head. I work at Automattic and I usually respond within 15 minutes, but sometimes up to an hour or 5 hours. For remote to make sense, you have to embrace the asynchronous communication as well.

That's a very important point. I have a number of friends who pull out their phones the moment it pings them, and nine out of ten times it's not important. And, usually, the tenth time where they say 'I have to answer this call/message' it's not in the least time-sensitive enough that they can't wait 10-15 minutes.

I'm still not sure how to deal with this, because everyone does it so I'm the weird one for finding it rude and disruptive to the conversation. The only thing I've come up with is to politely ask the people I interact with regularly and the people close to me to not check their phone during a conversation we're having.

(interestingly enough this usually sparks a conversation where they also express a dislike of constant interruption...)

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by junke »

chrisan wrote: post #31
junke wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Notifications are muted and the sender sees a 'Zzz' symbol next to your name. That's a minor thing but 'Zzz' really sends the wrong signal to the sender: if you are not available, then you are sleeping (i.e. unproductive).

> That's a minor thing but 'Zzz' really sends the wrong signal to the sender: if you are not available, then you are sleeping (i.e. unproductive). Working remotely, is that a bad thing? If you are unavailable due to deep coding or a need for a nap does it matter?

Ideally, only results should matter. But 'Zzz' somehow reinforces the default assumption that a remote worker will try to be paid for slacking off. Now, I am going back to bed.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by k__ »

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that.

I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job.

I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job.

I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city.

I have my "own" office, without any people talking, getting sick, etc.

I probably could improve things a bit, by moving into a cheaper city, but overall I'd say, remote work has made my life much better.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by michalstanko »

k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by hobolord »

michalstanko wrote: post #37
k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I've been working remotely for 7 years now. Do you ever miss contact with other people? Fun in the office, interesting conversations, etc.

I force myself to attend as many meetups as possible. I find it beneficial to just attend and even if you have no interest in the talk, it's nice being around other people who potentially are

Re: Remote work: 6 months later

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Post by brianwawok »

k__ wrote: post #36

I switched to working remote professionally 1 1/2 year ago and worked 1 1/2 year remote on private projects (Firefox committer, university projects) before that. I make about 20% more money (before tax) than on my last job. I save 1h every day on commuting, which I had to do on my last job. I buy my food in my local store, which is much cheaper than buying food in the city. I have my "own" office, without any people…

I moved to a cheaper city. I miss the big city. Going to in fact move back, even though I am remote.

The ?? $1k I saved per month is not worth all the good stuff I lost from the city (but it depends what you value)

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