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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dang »

jjawssd wrote: post #310
nickpsecurity wrote: post #278

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I'm on both. HN has a more diverse community and array of content. There's just a ton of stuff on here. That can up the noise for many people but one must simply filter it in their head more effectively. I only click on a few links on the front page with occasionally looking at New and 2nd-3rd pages to see if readers and I would benefit from me bumping one up. Now, Lobste.rs is different. They're a small community wi…

Most forums ban obvious spam - viagra, porn, etc. But HN bans people for being overly critical, for not agreeing with the groupthink, or perhaps not having enough tact or politeness.

That's not true. I don't like to leave such statements unanswered—the community has a right to know that we don't do these things.

It would be helpful to see the specific links that you're basing this view on, so we could clear them up.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dang »

erichocean wrote: post #177
pault wrote: post #162

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It's dangerous to go alone. Take this: https://news.ycombinator.com/best

It's hilarious that HN conflates popularity with "best". So even at HN, the most addictive content is considered to have the highest value. Seems…topical.

The name of that page goes back close to ten years, when HN was created. That was a time when lots of people had more faith in social forum upvoting than they/we do now.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dang »

sean_patel wrote: post #460

> I would take a 45 minute dump just catching up on stuff ROFL. That's 1 long helluva a Dump. Hope you don't have roommates or a large family.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13002196 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dang »

forgetsusername wrote: post #110
hmmhn wrote: post #47

I have found it weird that despite the commentators here being the loudest proponent of privacy, you cannot actually delete a Hacker News account and all comments with it.

This is a great point. Why not?

pg wrote about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6813226

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dang »

throwaway-hn123 wrote: post #127
cousin_it wrote: post #88

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If you want to endorse firing people for their online views, next time don't use a throwaway.

I'll do what I want, thanks. I'll also bear the consequences and not whine like a baby.

Your comments have been breaking the HN guidelines. We ban accounts that do that repeatedly. Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all, from now on.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by ppgn »

sean_patel wrote: post #378
tcrews wrote: post #66

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I can relate to that and part of it is probably because we don't want to be left out, we don't want to miss the latest technology that will make us obsolete, etc. 1) Reading HN all the time creates a false sense that things are moving much faster than they really are. 2) I'd suggesting reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" and it'll remind you your time is finite https://www.amazon.com/Subtle-Art-Not-Giving-C…

Absolutely no need to buy the book. Just read his original blog post that is more or less a TLDR; version of this bloated Amazon book. It made a huge difference in my work life. Everytime I found myself in a dumb user or arrogant dev or inept manager type situation (in meetings or emails or face-2-face), I would think back to this blog post and instantly feel better. Mark Manson "THE SUBTLE ART OF NOT GIVING A F_CK"…

Thanks for the TLDR!

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by vesak »

Are engineers who work at addictive software (social media apps, some type of games, etc.) actually breaking ethics? Should we defy this as a profession, not allow our skills to be used for a thing that's borderline evil?

If pushing addictive narcotics is denounced as one of the moste evil deeds possible, how's this different?

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by Kronopath »

Veen wrote: post #35
hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

> I've recently been finding it really hard to concentrate on my work I've overcome my Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter problems, but I can't seem to shake Hacker News.

Here's a friendly reminder that the "noprocrast" options in your profile exist. From the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html:

> If you turn it on you'll only be allowed to visit the site for maxvisit minutes at a time, with gaps of minaway minutes in between. The defaults are 20 and 180, which would let you view the site for 20 minutes at a time, and then not allow you back in for 3 hours.

You can set it to something more extreme, like maxvisit=60 minaway=720, and then it'll only allow you a one-hour session every twelve hours, which in practice usually means you can only go here once per day. Doing this turns HN from a distraction to something you have to consciously choose to visit.

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Post by gaur »

grzm wrote: post #388
gaur wrote: post #377

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> You've now provided two examples: firing and voting. Voting someone out of office is firing them. We're talking about firing.

Cool. I can see that for the purposes of this discussion. Is this only a workplace issue in your mind? At least for right now? Other aspects on my mind is what kind of heuristic do you use to determine if the political opinion is fireable? Or rather, it's not only what the opinion is (there are a lot of controversial political issues), or the opinion itself, it's the expression of it, right? For example, something sa…

Maybe for you this is some abstract problem for which you enjoy dreaming up an endless stream of meandering questions. For me it's a matter of "are the people above me in management going to fuck me over because of my sexuality?". And if I have evidence that they might, either they need to go or I need to go. And if I like my job, I'd rather it be them than me.

So for the sake of LGBT Mozilla employees, I'm glad Eich was shown the door. I'm not interested in entertaining a bunch of fluffy questions about heuristics, expression of opinion, what "purging" really means, or whatever. That's just noise.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by nicky0 »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #270
kazinator wrote: post #242

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Hacker News isn't social networking. Look, you have no friend list. No private message box. No feeds are pouring into your account. If you post something inane, you're punished by anonymous strangers.

Not quite. It's mostly not social media but there are similarities. There's a friends list here for sure where certain topics or people attract either similar or the same people. A small community effect happens there in the sub-threads. There's no private messaging but anyone posting an email or contact option will get messages if their posts are worthwhile. Anyone with HN Replies commenting a lot will have a pile o…

An I alone in never looking at usernames? I only read the content of each comment. I only look at the username to track a back-and-forth between two users and even then it's pretty much an opaque token to me. Might as well be a random string.
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