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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by eternalban »

grzm wrote: post #280
eternalban wrote: post #246

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> Nationalism and expressing love or pride in one's country (patriotism) are two different things I would agree that they are distinct, but very much related. > Nationalism focusses more on cultural background, language, and heritage, which "I ︎ Ok, then, how about this t-shirt of Mickey/Heart/Flag: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/155866837074483117/

"I would agree that they are distinct, but very much related." Sure. If they weren't, you wouldn't have put forth the example you did. "how about this t-shirt of Mickey/Heart/Flag: " I don't understand what you're getting at (nor am I interested in defining the working attire policy of GrubHub). My point was that there can be a meaningful distinction between nationalism and wearing a "I <3 America" T-shirt, which it…

I appreciated the distinction you made in your feedback.

> [from your OP] Nationalism focusses more on cultural background, language, and heritage, which "I ︎I picked an "American" cultural icon in conformance with your definition of nationalism.

> If you have a point, please make it.

Social commentary on the current attempt to render expressions of affinity for one's "cultural background, language, and heritage" as socially unacceptable, and indicative of regressive and/or antisocial mindset, and possibly cause for loss of livelihood in companies such as Grubhub.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by viiralvx »

hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

I have a legitimate question. If you delete your Facebook account, how does that affect your OAuth logins on other websites? I've been tempted to delete my Facebook account but there are unknowns about how that would play out in the social login space, so I'd be interested in your thoughts.

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Post by thenomad »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #172
thenomad wrote: post #41

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I'm not a big fan of social media, but the argument here seems specious. Here's another way to put it - "If the first thing a person does when they get up is eat, you'd say they're a glutton". True? (Or indeed "if the first thing a person does when they get up is go to the toilet, you'd say they're incontinent.")

The "first thing in the morning" idea is pulled from the CAGE assessment for addiction, as the "E" which stands for "eye-opener", the others being "cut down", "annoyance" and "guilt" https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/johns_hopkins_healthcare/dow... You're right that this one thing alone doesn't spell addiction, but if someone talked about how they should use the bathroom less, felt bad about how many times a day they w…

Heh, well put!

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by pasbesoin »

hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

But "social" was the whole mantra of business, a decade or two ago. Still is... "open space!"

We are all going to "collaborate" endlessly into ever higher heights of achievement.

"Social" was being integrated, per force, into the workforce.

And... real productivity dropped, and people became stressed out.

Facebook et al. aren't at odds with the contemporary corporate workplace. They just exemplify what a crap policy it is.

Imagine being forced to be on Facebook 8, 10, 12 hours a day, while trying to actually accomplish something. That's what much of the contemporary workplace has become at major corporations with which I'm familiar.

Am I bitter? A little... more than. Because they kept telling my my trouble concentrating in such environments was my fault.

Whatever you think of social media, such workplaces have not earned the right to express any opinion on the matter.

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Post by jjawssd »

aswanson wrote: post #198
golergka wrote: post #147

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Has it? I've seen comments such as this for a few years now, but I didn't notice the decline myself.

Some of the political arguments would -never- have been tolerated in the early years. Users and moderators would have quickly suppressed them...but they seem to have infested the forum since then.

100 times this. There needs to be a coordinated effort to stamp out all political material on HN so we can focus on actual Hacker News and not the Silicon Valley political sphere.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by jeffdavis »

veidr wrote: post #150
TheGirondin wrote: post #53

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- GrubHub CEO saying that anyone who voted for Trump is not welcome.

The ballot is secret for precisely that reason — it's not possible to judge people based on their vote. But making public your support for Trump — or the KKK, or NAMBLA, or Hacker News — is a completely different thing. You can and should be judged on the basis of the ideas and opinions that you promote.

"You can and should be judged on the basis of the ideas and opinions that you promote."

That reminds me of the quotation:

"A new idea is a beautiful and fragile thing. Attack people, not ideas."

I don't know who said that first, but I love that quotation. It mocks itself (and other witticisms), and at the same time reminds you to focus your energy attacking ideas rather than people.

In extreme cases, someone can have a lot of bad ideas and you need to challenge them personally. But that's only in extreme cases, and doesn't apply transitively to supporters of the person.

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Post by untilHellbanned »

anondon wrote: post #119
untilHellbanned wrote: post #109

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Please explain what guideline this comment violates. I was serious. Quitting the NY Times is the only way they will realize that they made some huge mistakes in the elections coverage. NY Times was made to look like a fool by this election. Their arrogance will be their downfall. And keep in mind I'm a hardcore liberal, and always valued sources like NY Times. Now I think they are a joke with how they didn't take Tru…

>> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. >> Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them.

It's totally on topic. The media is telling us to quit social media. Whereas I'm saying we should quit the media. It is also most definitely something new as most people aren't pointing the finger at the New York Times. Both these points should be quite obvious but they weren't as I suspected which is ironic because it led to canned, low value rebuttals.

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Post by jjawssd »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #278
tinbucket wrote: post #213

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What is Lobsters? I'm curious about the thing that's helped you wean yourself off tech news, but googling it hasn't helped.

I'm on both. HN has a more diverse community and array of content. There's just a ton of stuff on here. That can up the noise for many people but one must simply filter it in their head more effectively. I only click on a few links on the front page with occasionally looking at New and 2nd-3rd pages to see if readers and I would benefit from me bumping one up. Now, Lobste.rs is different. They're a small community wi…

Most forums ban obvious spam - viagra, porn, etc. But HN bans people for being overly critical, for not agreeing with the groupthink, or perhaps not having enough tact or politeness.
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