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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dpweb » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:03 PM UTC

TheGirondin wrote: post #53

tajen wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fire people, based on their opinions. Lest we forget: - Brendan Eich, former CEO of Mozilla, fired for a donation, - Douglas Crockford, uninvited from NodeVember, the general opinion is that he said something that a woman didn't like, - Tom Preston-Werner, co-founder and former CEO of GitHub, upon an unproven accusation, - And all people and the 2 colleagues who have been fired in smaller companies, in smaller even…

- GrubHub CEO saying that anyone who voted for Trump is not welcome.

Appropriate to say that hateful comments are not welcome in the workplace. Not appropriate to bring politics into it with Trump. Employees should not be made to feel unwelcome because of their political affiliation.

Quick example, as awful as sexual harrassment is - the code of conduct at your workplace - it doesn't say - Sexual harassment (like the kind Trump does) will not be tolerated. They manage to get a point across regardless.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by stinos » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

donatj wrote: post #25

I disagree that you should quit everything entirely. You can be an occasional Facebook user. I check it a few times a week to see what friends up to and it's not a major distraction to my life. It's become a social hub, a way to organize events that not having one makes you "that guy", a pain to invite to parties, a pain to get a hold of. You can have a Facebook and use it as a tool rather than an addiction. Everythi…

This. For a lot of people FB etc are treated as 'all or nothing' but it doesn't have to be like that. Just like alcohol or whatever drug you prefer doesn't have to mean getting wasted every single day. Couple of times a year is fun as well, if not more fun.

Whatever the author claims about social media ('corrosion of civic life and cultural shallowness', for one) to me sounds like thinking too much like any other standard social media target but with some clicking around and reflection you can change it to work pretty well for you (at least on FB). Sure I do get some crap but most has been filtered out after a while and it now works extremely well for me: mainly for events/band info (most forums I used to frequent for e.g. the goa/squat scene only have a fraction of all parties these days but most is on FB now), news for some particular stuff I care about, group chat for setting up meetings etc. Used this way it also doesn't hurt my carreer any more than anything else on the internet: before FB I spent time frequenting many different forums and news sites and chatting on IRC during work hours. Part of that just got swapped for something else.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by fabiandesimone » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

mysterypie wrote: post #103

Veen wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've recently been finding it really hard to concentrate on my work I've overcome my Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter problems, but I can't seem to shake Hacker News.

The actual inventor of Hacker News, Paul Graham, hasn't commented for over a year: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pg Considering that he was very very active on HN in the past (karma 155077), I wonder what his reasoning is to cut back?

Well, the quality of the discussions on HN have taken a dive dramatically since about a year and a half. So maybe he just doesn't feel theres much to comment these days.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dorfsmay » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:07 PM UTC

Veen wrote: post #20

thro32 wrote: post #4

There is also another aspect. In theory your personal life and work are separated. Your religion or political opinions should not matter at work. But many people (sadly even on HN) think it is ok to fire people, based on their opinions.

I'd put a slightly different spin on that. Instead of saying "personal life and work are separated," I'd say "the public and the private sphere are separated." When you post on Facebook or Twitter, you're publishing content in the public sphere, deliberately. Published ideas are for public consumption and judgement. If you don't want those ideas and opinions to be judged, don't publish them. Talk to your friends and…

> There's a perverse modern idea that you don't have an identity unless it's a public identity.

That started with talk shows on TV, where it is implied that you haven't had an emotion until it's made public.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by guard-of-terra » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:10 PM UTC

Who the F do you think you are to order me around?

That's my immediate reaction to the title.

As it happens, deciding for myself is more important to me than my career assessment by other people.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by tnone » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:10 PM UTC

77pt77 wrote: post #70

tajen wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fire people, based on their opinions. Lest we forget: - Brendan Eich, former CEO of Mozilla, fired for a donation, - Douglas Crockford, uninvited from NodeVember, the general opinion is that he said something that a woman didn't like, - Tom Preston-Werner, co-founder and former CEO of GitHub, upon an unproven accusation, - And all people and the 2 colleagues who have been fired in smaller companies, in smaller even…

> Douglas Crockford, uninvited from NodeVember, the general opinion is that he said something that a woman didn't like Anything to back that up?

This post compares the allegations with the harmless actual quotes:

http://atom-morgan.github.io/in-defense-of-douglas-crockford

This appears to have been the instigator:

https://twitter.com/nexxylove/status/771503661956501504

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by kyriakos » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:11 PM UTC

hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

There are far too many distractions online not necessarily social media. In the past it was irc and later forums. I find instant messengers particularly distracting, even if you put all on silent mode sooner or later you will want to check if you have unread messages.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:11 PM UTC

forgetsusername wrote: post #106

cuantos wrote: post #86

More importantly social media is bad for your mental health. It hits the brain in many of the same ways as the 'news' and those intentionally boring phone games. It causes dopamine dysregulation which leads to a dependency. Consider the anxiety you feel if you need to go to the bathroom and cannot find your phone. This dopamine dysregulation destroys your mood and motivation. Being social is a good thing. However com…

> Consider the anxiety you feel if you need to go to the bathroom and cannot find your phone. Is this a real thing?

Depends on how long I need to be in there.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by anondon » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:11 PM UTC

untilHellbanned wrote: post #109

anondon wrote: post #58

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Consider reading the HN guidelines, unless you are actively trying to get hell banned. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please explain what guideline this comment violates. I was serious. Quitting the NY Times is the only way they will realize that they made some huge mistakes in the elections coverage. NY Times was made to look like a fool by this election. Their arrogance will be their downfall. And keep in mind I'm a hardcore liberal, and always valued sources like NY Times. Now I think they are a joke with how they didn't take Tru…

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>> Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by jdmoreira » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 3:13 PM UTC

I've read Cal Newport's book Deep Work. I've also quit facebook almost 2 years ago and more recently twitter and instagram. I have zero regrets and overall I can say that my life improved a lot, including my professional life.